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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 908828" data-attributes="member: 326">Hiya mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  52nd-level party of 4-5 = El +/-0 (Moderate)34th-level party of 4-5 = EL +2 (Tough)26th-level party of 4-5 = EL +4 (Difficult 50/50)17th-level party of 4-5 = EL +6 (Very Difficult)13th-level party of 4-5 = EL +8 (Virtually impossible)  Didn't you mention before (when we discussed this previously) that the PCs had a lot of NPC help during that fight or somesuch...?With the Winterwight having DR 20/+6, AC 46, and Fast Healing 10 its going to be very difficult to damage by your characters, and being automatically hasted (feat) its going to get four attacks per round with the blightfire attack which surely will spell the death of any 17th-level character!? At best thats going to be a 50% chance of successfully saving for a 30th-level character and you have to make the save each round for seven rounds! Explain how any 17th-level character who got hit by the Winterwight is going to make even a quarter of those saves? They are going to be down 20 permanent Constitution at least; as a result of every hit!  But I have done all the hardwork for you.To me its just as quick than the official rules, but then I am equally familiar with both of course.  Added to that the official rules totally collapse at epic levels making my system a necessity at those levels - which was of course the target for the initial design.Thats true, but when I have my system as the default standard you won't have to rework stuff. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />You are misiterpreting the numbers.  Well he does have control weather at will.  How you lost no PCs is a complete mystery to me!? I would expect any 17th-level character in melee range taking the brunt of the Winterwights attacks to be dead after the second round thanks to blightfire.The only thing I can think is that it was quite simply the luckiest day of those PCs lives...? Which, if true is hardly an indictment of my system.Once you grasp the CR/EL relationship it all falls into place, until then it can seem disjointed.  He has SR 21 which is hardly likely to impede anyone capable of casting Imprisonment.Exactly, and Elminster is CR 39 by all accounts.</blockquote>

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