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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 921028" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi Coredump mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Something I probably touched on previously was that the CR system is also there to facilitate the creation and modification of servants by deities.Essentially its really only as accurate as it needs to be once you introduce all the components. I see the point you are trying to make, but for those people who don't want to tinker with; advance or create their own creatures they are never really going to need the CR system (only the EL portion). So its really a moot point since all the 'hard work' will be done for you.There are a number of flaws in WotC's representation of EL that need to be addressed (see below). Before doing that any such comparitives are simply coincidental.Indeed. At non-epic levels* you can 'get away with' using the official rules.*More likely under 16th or so. The difference is that under WotCs method a 20th-level character is CR 20/EL 20 and I disagree with the latter half of that appraisal.They still advocate that a single 24th-level character is a difficult (50/50) challenge for a party of 4-5 20th-level characters. Or that a single 20th-level character is a difficult challenge for a party of 16th-level characters. This just simply isn't the case.As my system shows a single difficult challenge for a party of 4-5 characters is going to be a Challenge Rating of approx. double the average party level. All feedback and playtesting bears this out!</blockquote>

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