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<blockquote data-quote="Zarrock God of Evil" data-source="post: 1008804" data-attributes="member: 2025">Re: Re: reThe comment about sorcerers underlines what I'm trying to say here. If you posted a poll on this board (a minor representation of the DnD community as it may be), you'd probably find that at least half think sorcerer's are just fine - or even overpowered. Try to think of it - the designer's had to improve the game in a way that would bring it closer to the vision of ALL or MOST of the 3.0 players. Now there's a difficult task. Btw - part of the reasoning for not giving the sorcerer more charisma based skills may have been that they didn't wish to step on the bard's feet too much. And even though sorcerer's primary ability is charisma - intelligence and constitution skills are probably the sorcerer's most useful: concentration, spellcraft and knowledge (arcana). I think that overall they succeeded, you feel that they failed. What you thought were terribly important and obvious changes, the design team may have felt premature, unnecessary, or of secondary priority (who knows). Does this make the revision inherently bad? Sales numbers may show (even though it's really a lousy way to judge the quality of a product. Taken from the interest here in Denmark, 3.5 seems to be on its way to massive financial success). I think they did a good job and they tried their best and I certainly don't believe there's any ill will on their part. As for the art, I'm in the same boat as Morrus. Didn't expect anything new and I'm not disappointed.-Zarrock</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zarrock God of Evil, post: 1008804, member: 2025"] [b]Re: Re: re[/b] The comment about sorcerers underlines what I'm trying to say here. If you posted a poll on this board (a minor representation of the DnD community as it may be), you'd probably find that at least half think sorcerer's are just fine - or even overpowered. Try to think of it - the designer's had to improve the game in a way that would bring it closer to the vision of ALL or MOST of the 3.0 players. Now there's a difficult task. Btw - part of the reasoning for not giving the sorcerer more charisma based skills may have been that they didn't wish to step on the bard's feet too much. And even though sorcerer's primary ability is charisma - intelligence and constitution skills are probably the sorcerer's most useful: concentration, spellcraft and knowledge (arcana). I think that overall they succeeded, you feel that they failed. What you thought were terribly important and obvious changes, the design team may have felt premature, unnecessary, or of secondary priority (who knows). Does this make the revision inherently bad? Sales numbers may show (even though it's really a lousy way to judge the quality of a product. Taken from the interest here in Denmark, 3.5 seems to be on its way to massive financial success). I think they did a good job and they tried their best and I certainly don't believe there's any ill will on their part. As for the art, I'm in the same boat as Morrus. Didn't expect anything new and I'm not disappointed. -Zarrock [/QUOTE]

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