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<blockquote data-quote="Belphanior" data-source="post: 1009115" data-attributes="member: 12401"><p>Ah, yes. When the discussion is going against you, throw with mud.</p><p>Yes Iron Chef, I am a hack&slasher. That is why my PC got married to another PC and took 8 ranks into Profession: (mommy) when she got pregnant and gave birth to her baby daughter. Just so I could slaughter more orcs.</p><p></p><p>One more thing before I start the quote-refute cycle again: I love the way you ignore a lot of my arguments and attempt to divert attention from the issues you can't handle. Lovely job.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If that is what their god expects of them, sure. I'm not sure how this requires you to be an expert at sense motive though. Aren't those miracles that automatically prevent people from lying in the first place a lot more effective?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You either did not understand me, or are just trying to put words in my mouth. Thanks for the mud though, I hadn't had enough of that particular commodity yet.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Relevance? So people who do not have ranks in sense motive are dummies? Strange criteria you got there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sense motive does not tell you the right course of action, however, so this entire bit falls to pieces.</p><p>Clerics have Augury and such though. Hmmm, Augury, Discern Lies, Find Traps... Say, do you suppose the cleric is a spell based class instead of a skill based one?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, Diplomacy is the better skill to function in a hierarchy. Sense motive does not hurt, true, but it is not required for the clerics who are part of a hierarchy (and not all are, as your own quote proves).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And here I was thinking that I was supposed to be the hack&slasher...</p><p>I have gnome cleric of Fharlanhg who has taken several ranks in Open Locks, btw. A waste of skill point from a purely gamist point of view, but it fit the concept. Constructing your character with sub-optimal, but in-character reasons in mind is also a form of roleplaying. So very sad you seem to be unfamiliar with that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Belphanior, post: 1009115, member: 12401"] Ah, yes. When the discussion is going against you, throw with mud. Yes Iron Chef, I am a hack&slasher. That is why my PC got married to another PC and took 8 ranks into Profession: (mommy) when she got pregnant and gave birth to her baby daughter. Just so I could slaughter more orcs. One more thing before I start the quote-refute cycle again: I love the way you ignore a lot of my arguments and attempt to divert attention from the issues you can't handle. Lovely job. If that is what their god expects of them, sure. I'm not sure how this requires you to be an expert at sense motive though. Aren't those miracles that automatically prevent people from lying in the first place a lot more effective? You either did not understand me, or are just trying to put words in my mouth. Thanks for the mud though, I hadn't had enough of that particular commodity yet. Relevance? So people who do not have ranks in sense motive are dummies? Strange criteria you got there. Sense motive does not tell you the right course of action, however, so this entire bit falls to pieces. Clerics have Augury and such though. Hmmm, Augury, Discern Lies, Find Traps... Say, do you suppose the cleric is a spell based class instead of a skill based one? Actually, Diplomacy is the better skill to function in a hierarchy. Sense motive does not hurt, true, but it is not required for the clerics who are part of a hierarchy (and not all are, as your own quote proves). And here I was thinking that I was supposed to be the hack&slasher... I have gnome cleric of Fharlanhg who has taken several ranks in Open Locks, btw. A waste of skill point from a purely gamist point of view, but it fit the concept. Constructing your character with sub-optimal, but in-character reasons in mind is also a form of roleplaying. So very sad you seem to be unfamiliar with that. [/QUOTE]
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