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<blockquote data-quote="sithramir" data-source="post: 1009885" data-attributes="member: 12183">Well you can say that they sense the wrongness in others, but thats how you look at it. I see a lot of clerics being fanatics about their gods. They don't understand how other people think. A lot don't interact with people enough to see the goodness/badness of them. Remember that this isn't present day. Lets forget my first paragraph and assume they aren't one sided minded creatures like a lot of clerics could be.They have spells that handle all of that that are relatively low level so a lower level cleric can have them. They still have a high enough wisdom to have good unnatural sense motive and can still take cross class. Haven't you ever heard of the idea &quot;Those who can do. Those who can't teach&quot; Its kind of like the rogue can do it cause he's living where he has to or he's dead. The cleric can have the wrong perception of every person he meets but it doesn't matter. He doesn't necessarilly have the ability to learn people skills the same as a rogue. But he's still on level ground with other classes that have it as cross-class to learn normally. He's also wise enough to still sense motive well so he doesnt' 'need&quot; class points persay to do it anyways. I think thats one reason why even if they were supposed to get it they wouldn't.&nbsp; They are already good enough skill wise plus they have tons of spells to do the same thing without error. (Can't lie to someone when they can read your thoughts or discern your lies).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="sithramir, post: 1009885, member: 12183"] Well you can say that they sense the wrongness in others, but thats how you look at it. I see a lot of clerics being fanatics about their gods. They don't understand how other people think. A lot don't interact with people enough to see the goodness/badness of them. Remember that this isn't present day. Lets forget my first paragraph and assume they aren't one sided minded creatures like a lot of clerics could be. They have spells that handle all of that that are relatively low level so a lower level cleric can have them. They still have a high enough wisdom to have good unnatural sense motive and can still take cross class. Haven't you ever heard of the idea "Those who can do. Those who can't teach" Its kind of like the rogue can do it cause he's living where he has to or he's dead. The cleric can have the wrong perception of every person he meets but it doesn't matter. He doesn't necessarilly have the ability to learn people skills the same as a rogue. But he's still on level ground with other classes that have it as cross-class to learn normally. He's also wise enough to still sense motive well so he doesnt' 'need" class points persay to do it anyways. I think thats one reason why even if they were supposed to get it they wouldn't. They are already good enough skill wise plus they have tons of spells to do the same thing without error. (Can't lie to someone when they can read your thoughts or discern your lies). [/QUOTE]

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