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<blockquote data-quote="Elvinis75" data-source="post: 1010163" data-attributes="member: 4379">All talk of priests being fanatics aside.&nbsp; Which I'm worried about that statement and how many believe it is true.&nbsp; All THAT aside, I still think that you have failed to explain why priests would be any worse dealing peoples emotions and reading them than a rogue.&nbsp; The statement &quot;those you ... teach&quot; isn't a fair statement.&nbsp; I know quite a few teachers that are great at something.&nbsp; The fact that they teach it doesn't mean squat.The idea that there are no real failings or not being able to read people as a cleric just isn't true.&nbsp; People are less likely to connect with them and confide in them and thus be as active in the church community.&nbsp; The parisitioner needs to have his finger on the pulse of his flock.&nbsp; The problem that I have with the cross-class design for this is that the cleric gets very little time to spend with skill development per level (2 points per level) so either they are going to be good at something or not.&nbsp; Sure in the beginning levels they might be as good but in the upper levels they aren't even close that is unless they do nothing but study people.&nbsp; Seems to me that we just have different views on the cleric.&nbsp; If you go back to 2E and read the cleric handbook you will see that they are the type of people that spend a lot of time with people.Have responsibilities defined marriage, counciler...etc.&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't have the DoF but I think that it probably has to have more info in there.&nbsp; Agree to disagree.Out!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elvinis75, post: 1010163, member: 4379"] All talk of priests being fanatics aside. Which I'm worried about that statement and how many believe it is true. All THAT aside, I still think that you have failed to explain why priests would be any worse dealing peoples emotions and reading them than a rogue. The statement "those you ... teach" isn't a fair statement. I know quite a few teachers that are great at something. The fact that they teach it doesn't mean squat. The idea that there are no real failings or not being able to read people as a cleric just isn't true. People are less likely to connect with them and confide in them and thus be as active in the church community. The parisitioner needs to have his finger on the pulse of his flock. The problem that I have with the cross-class design for this is that the cleric gets very little time to spend with skill development per level (2 points per level) so either they are going to be good at something or not. Sure in the beginning levels they might be as good but in the upper levels they aren't even close that is unless they do nothing but study people. Seems to me that we just have different views on the cleric. If you go back to 2E and read the cleric handbook you will see that they are the type of people that spend a lot of time with people. Have responsibilities defined marriage, counciler...etc. I don't have the DoF but I think that it probably has to have more info in there. Agree to disagree. Out! :D [/QUOTE]

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