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<blockquote data-quote="Jasperak" data-source="post: 4533862" data-attributes="member: 2487"><p>This discussion reminds of why I hate my cable provider. I pay something like $55/month for basic digital cable, of which I watch about a dozen or so channels. I have to pay an additional $30/month for Digital Classic to get my Geek channels (SciFi, NatGeo, The Science Channel.) Included in that bundle are such gems as (We, SOAPNet, Sprout, Nicktoons, Toon Disney, 4 MTV channels, Gospel Music Channel, and Jewlery TV among many others.) I have to pay far more for lots of crap than if they just sold me what I want at an appropriate markup (maybe $10 for the Geek package.)</p><p></p><p>Now WOTC is selling me rules for all levels of play although I will never use half of them, namely levels 15-30, instead of giving more rules for the game I do play. Bundling in what I consider filler material and forcing me to buy more books to get the game I want reminds me of how my cable provider is sticking it to me. Now I understand that many like or expect to like the higher level play. My concern is their sales strategy to get me to buy more than I want to play.</p><p></p><p>I have absolutely no intention of paying $175 dollars for the three core books, PHB2, and MM2 so I can play a bard that fights against frost giants (granted those frost giants would likely appear in the 11-20 level range and MM2 anyway, I use them as an example of something that I am use to having that I wouldn't now. Since I do not have the MM I could not say how many iconics are not in there that I would expect. How many level 1-5 range monsters are there?) Will I really have to bring five books to the table to run a 3rd level adventure with bards and some other random 3rd-level monsters?</p><p></p><p>Using a business model that in some ways mimics my cable provider is a losing situation for them, because I can always find a game system that will give me what I want and not make me buy more than I need.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jasperak, post: 4533862, member: 2487"] This discussion reminds of why I hate my cable provider. I pay something like $55/month for basic digital cable, of which I watch about a dozen or so channels. I have to pay an additional $30/month for Digital Classic to get my Geek channels (SciFi, NatGeo, The Science Channel.) Included in that bundle are such gems as (We, SOAPNet, Sprout, Nicktoons, Toon Disney, 4 MTV channels, Gospel Music Channel, and Jewlery TV among many others.) I have to pay far more for lots of crap than if they just sold me what I want at an appropriate markup (maybe $10 for the Geek package.) Now WOTC is selling me rules for all levels of play although I will never use half of them, namely levels 15-30, instead of giving more rules for the game I do play. Bundling in what I consider filler material and forcing me to buy more books to get the game I want reminds me of how my cable provider is sticking it to me. Now I understand that many like or expect to like the higher level play. My concern is their sales strategy to get me to buy more than I want to play. I have absolutely no intention of paying $175 dollars for the three core books, PHB2, and MM2 so I can play a bard that fights against frost giants (granted those frost giants would likely appear in the 11-20 level range and MM2 anyway, I use them as an example of something that I am use to having that I wouldn't now. Since I do not have the MM I could not say how many iconics are not in there that I would expect. How many level 1-5 range monsters are there?) Will I really have to bring five books to the table to run a 3rd level adventure with bards and some other random 3rd-level monsters? Using a business model that in some ways mimics my cable provider is a losing situation for them, because I can always find a game system that will give me what I want and not make me buy more than I need. [/QUOTE]
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