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<blockquote data-quote="Jasperak" data-source="post: 4533894" data-attributes="member: 2487"><p>Nice snark.</p><p></p><p>Maybe I should have quoted my earlier post where I explained why I like BECMI, of which this and my previous post expounds upon.</p><p></p><p>As for all those levels that you quoted, most of my games have gone to between 12-15 levels. Therefore I never bought BD&D's Immortals Set, 2e's High-level Campaign Options, nor 3e's Epic-level handbook. I did buy BD&D's Master set but never used them in play.</p><p></p><p>I don't feel like I missed out on any character options because of not buying those books. With 4e's design I will have fully 1/3 of the class material (levels 21-30) that I have never played with, nor based on past experience will never play with.</p><p></p><p>With 1e and 2e I could safely say that I have used that vast majority of options within the core rules. With 1e you had to buy Unearthed Arcana to be able to use Cavaliers, Barbarians, and Thief/Acrobats, but I don't think those classes were left out of the PH to make room for more spells, nor force me to buy UA because it was "core" rules.</p><p></p><p>My problem with WOTC's sales strategy is they want me to buy 5 books to cover the same level of play as 3 books or sets in any other edition did, and give me the same amount of options.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jasperak, post: 4533894, member: 2487"] Nice snark. Maybe I should have quoted my earlier post where I explained why I like BECMI, of which this and my previous post expounds upon. As for all those levels that you quoted, most of my games have gone to between 12-15 levels. Therefore I never bought BD&D's Immortals Set, 2e's High-level Campaign Options, nor 3e's Epic-level handbook. I did buy BD&D's Master set but never used them in play. I don't feel like I missed out on any character options because of not buying those books. With 4e's design I will have fully 1/3 of the class material (levels 21-30) that I have never played with, nor based on past experience will never play with. With 1e and 2e I could safely say that I have used that vast majority of options within the core rules. With 1e you had to buy Unearthed Arcana to be able to use Cavaliers, Barbarians, and Thief/Acrobats, but I don't think those classes were left out of the PH to make room for more spells, nor force me to buy UA because it was "core" rules. My problem with WOTC's sales strategy is they want me to buy 5 books to cover the same level of play as 3 books or sets in any other edition did, and give me the same amount of options. [/QUOTE]
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