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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4543128" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You did get a reply earlier.</p><p></p><p>Of course, the word "must" is loaded. So far as I know, no one holds a rifle to your head to force you to do so. If you are comfortable with absurd results, and enjoy <em>Monty Python & the Holy Grail</em> as a game experience, I suppose that retconning the results wouldn't be desireable.</p><p></p><p>Me, I can only take so many scenes of </p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">LAUNCELOT: Concorde! Brave, Concorde ... you shall not have died in vain! </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">CONCORDE: I'm not quite dead, sir ... </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">LAUNCELOT (a little deflated): Oh, well ... er brave Concorde! You shall not have been fatally wounded in vain! </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">CONCORDE: I think I could pull through, sir. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">LAUNCELOT: Good Concorde ... stay here and rest awhile. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">He makes to leap off dramatically. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">CONCORDE: I think I'll be all right to come with you, sir. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">LAUNCELOT: I will send help, brave friend, as soon as I have accomplished this most daring, desperate adventure in this genre. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">CONCORDE: Really, I feel fine, sir. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">LAUNCELOT: Farewell, Concorde! </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">CONCORDE: It just seems silly ... me lying here. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">SIR LAUNCELOT plunges off into the forest. </p><p></p><p>before the game turns me off completely. YMMV.</p><p></p><p>In the thread where this was first brought up, many examples were given where, in order to gain non-absurd results, one had to either (1) avoid all narrative description of the results of combat, (2) retcon the narrative description of the results of combat, or (3) re-write the 4e rules pertaining to damage and healing.</p><p></p><p>Go back and read that thread again if you want examples; they are still there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4543128, member: 18280"] :lol: You did get a reply earlier. Of course, the word "must" is loaded. So far as I know, no one holds a rifle to your head to force you to do so. If you are comfortable with absurd results, and enjoy [I]Monty Python & the Holy Grail[/I] as a game experience, I suppose that retconning the results wouldn't be desireable. Me, I can only take so many scenes of [INDENT]LAUNCELOT: Concorde! Brave, Concorde ... you shall not have died in vain! CONCORDE: I'm not quite dead, sir ... LAUNCELOT (a little deflated): Oh, well ... er brave Concorde! You shall not have been fatally wounded in vain! CONCORDE: I think I could pull through, sir. LAUNCELOT: Good Concorde ... stay here and rest awhile. He makes to leap off dramatically. CONCORDE: I think I'll be all right to come with you, sir. LAUNCELOT: I will send help, brave friend, as soon as I have accomplished this most daring, desperate adventure in this genre. CONCORDE: Really, I feel fine, sir. LAUNCELOT: Farewell, Concorde! CONCORDE: It just seems silly ... me lying here. SIR LAUNCELOT plunges off into the forest. [/INDENT] before the game turns me off completely. YMMV. In the thread where this was first brought up, many examples were given where, in order to gain non-absurd results, one had to either (1) avoid all narrative description of the results of combat, (2) retcon the narrative description of the results of combat, or (3) re-write the 4e rules pertaining to damage and healing. Go back and read that thread again if you want examples; they are still there. RC [/QUOTE]
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