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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4549937" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>(1) I am sure that it is always true that there will be posters who do not feel that their points are adequately addressed. I fact, I would go so far as to say that this is a primary means of "winning" arguments on the InterWeb.</p><p></p><p>(2) However, in this case, AFAICT, this is not because I "have simply avoided addressing certain arguments, repeatedly, but because their points are objections which fail to successfully object.</p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">(A) Anything that does not impact resolution is colour.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(A.1) Therefore, trying to get up is colour.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(B) If anything that does not impact resolution is colour, and X does not impact resolution, then it is also colour.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(B.1) But X <em>could</em> impact resolution.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(B.1.a) Trying to get up could also impact resolution. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(B.1.b) Colour is defined as that which does not impact resolution, not that which has no potential to impact resolution.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">(B.1.c) The set consisting of "that which has no potential to impact resolution" is an extremely small, and perhaps an empty, set.</p><p></p><p>(3) Any "objection" which is a recursive to the above is not worth replying to again. It is of no more value for you to continue saying "But X <em>could</em> impact resolution" than it is for me to continually list B.1.a-c.</p><p></p><p>(4) Therefore, any objection which is of any value must acknowledge the validity of the response to the objection, as shown above, and raise a new objection, or must demonstrate conclusively that the responses to the objection are in error, thus requiring new responses.</p><p></p><p>This hasn't been done. All we are doing is recursively asking and answering the same thing over and over again. And, ultimately, if you are not convinced that mine is a valid viewpoint is of questionable value. And, to be equally honest, it is of questionable value for you to convince me. Neither one of us relies on the other for validity (I hope!).</p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4549937, member: 18280"] (1) I am sure that it is always true that there will be posters who do not feel that their points are adequately addressed. I fact, I would go so far as to say that this is a primary means of "winning" arguments on the InterWeb. (2) However, in this case, AFAICT, this is not because I "have simply avoided addressing certain arguments, repeatedly, but because their points are objections which fail to successfully object. Example: [indent](A) Anything that does not impact resolution is colour. (A.1) Therefore, trying to get up is colour. (B) If anything that does not impact resolution is colour, and X does not impact resolution, then it is also colour. (B.1) But X [i]could[/i] impact resolution. (B.1.a) Trying to get up could also impact resolution. (B.1.b) Colour is defined as that which does not impact resolution, not that which has no potential to impact resolution. (B.1.c) The set consisting of "that which has no potential to impact resolution" is an extremely small, and perhaps an empty, set.[/indent] (3) Any "objection" which is a recursive to the above is not worth replying to again. It is of no more value for you to continue saying "But X [i]could[/i] impact resolution" than it is for me to continually list B.1.a-c. (4) Therefore, any objection which is of any value must acknowledge the validity of the response to the objection, as shown above, and raise a new objection, or must demonstrate conclusively that the responses to the objection are in error, thus requiring new responses. This hasn't been done. All we are doing is recursively asking and answering the same thing over and over again. And, ultimately, if you are not convinced that mine is a valid viewpoint is of questionable value. And, to be equally honest, it is of questionable value for you to convince me. Neither one of us relies on the other for validity (I hope!). RC [/QUOTE]
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