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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emeraldwind" data-source="post: 4565370" data-attributes="member: 80437">Thoughts on 4eObviously there are some far more  experienced and  articulate thoughts on this subject, but here is my take.  I never played D&D. Odd as it sounds I did always collect D&D manuals and other rpg books. My friends all played 3E, and consequently always attempted to get me involved. Several times I made the attempt, but the heaps and heaps of rules, the manuals, the wheel barrow of "red-tape" involved simply made it unattractive to me.  Now it is important to note that I may in fact be WoTC's target consumer. The guy that played MMORPG's and the what not not, but simply couldnt be bothered to learn what (to an uninformed observer ) seemed like something far more trouble than it could be worth.  I picked up the 4E  core's for the purpose of continuing my rpg collection. After reading them I was really interested. Maybe I was burned out on WoW, maybe it just seemed interesting. For whatever reason I ended up putting a group together and running KoTS.  The entire group really responded well. The only issue being that some of the  3E guys felt 4E had been dumbed down, and apparently this was the reason someone like me would find it interesting. After talking with a few other 3E fans in my local store, I found that the general idea was that because 4e was a simpler system ( and again I am not educated enough on 3e to make a reasonable determination on the validiity of this) it was somehow less enjoyable. Moreover that it is a spoonfed version of D&D designed for nimrods who could have never understood the complexity and or have enjoyed 3E. This type of elitist resistance to change isnt uncommon and I certainly didnt take it personally- I just wonder how much of such a perception actually affects people view of 4E</blockquote>

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