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<blockquote data-quote="Nymrohd" data-source="post: 5305300" data-attributes="member: 59126"><p>I think the major issue is glut. I blame the system tbh. We already have too many powers as it is, many of them being nearly identical across classes. The same goes for feats. Magic items are not that many but then again they are pretty boring in 4E. And the thing that drives me mad is that all the space used up on crunch we already have too much off could have been used for rituals and boons and other alternative treasures which are very interesting rule items that we barely have enough of.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile the powers and feats we do get suffer from being disjointed to a real theme. The structure of 4E, particular the power system, intuitively links to thematic characters and builds. Yet themes cannot exist in a vacuum; they require settings to bring them to life. The vast majority of fluff comes from assumed PoLand which is not defined at all and thus cannot really drive themes by itself. What I really like about Dark Sun (and loved about 3.5 Eberron) is the clarity of its archetypes whether supported by builts or by the themes introduced with that setting. I don't know about you but I find myself wanting to play archetypes the vast majority of the time and so do my players. Generic powers by the shitload are useless in giving me that feel unless I reskin them all (which I often end up doing). In short I cannot see how small disjointed thematic articles can function outside of a world to make their themes organic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nymrohd, post: 5305300, member: 59126"] I think the major issue is glut. I blame the system tbh. We already have too many powers as it is, many of them being nearly identical across classes. The same goes for feats. Magic items are not that many but then again they are pretty boring in 4E. And the thing that drives me mad is that all the space used up on crunch we already have too much off could have been used for rituals and boons and other alternative treasures which are very interesting rule items that we barely have enough of. Meanwhile the powers and feats we do get suffer from being disjointed to a real theme. The structure of 4E, particular the power system, intuitively links to thematic characters and builds. Yet themes cannot exist in a vacuum; they require settings to bring them to life. The vast majority of fluff comes from assumed PoLand which is not defined at all and thus cannot really drive themes by itself. What I really like about Dark Sun (and loved about 3.5 Eberron) is the clarity of its archetypes whether supported by builts or by the themes introduced with that setting. I don't know about you but I find myself wanting to play archetypes the vast majority of the time and so do my players. Generic powers by the shitload are useless in giving me that feel unless I reskin them all (which I often end up doing). In short I cannot see how small disjointed thematic articles can function outside of a world to make their themes organic. [/QUOTE]
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