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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4887990" data-attributes="member: 82504">It gives my players another method of not killing every enemy which is for me a very positive thing (some of my players are my family).If you didn't &quot;pay&quot; extra or actually come up with something actually tricky other than saying &quot;I do a disarm&quot;&nbsp; and you didnt allocate a power choice like say the 17th level fighter power then should it have un-due impact?It makes the game more dicey to have instant death maneuvers whatever skin you put on them because they dont tie in with the hit points as fatigue and luck and morale... system. The true completely weapon gone move changes things from d12 to d4 and removes 2 or three from proficiency and 1 to 6 for the weapon/implement bonus.I am thinking I want to figure out what level encounter or daily power a riposting disarm might be. Its less than the 17th level fighers power... obviously how low can we go. I am thinking quite a ways lower depending on other details.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 4887990, member: 82504"] It gives my players another method of not killing every enemy which is for me a very positive thing (some of my players are my family). If you didn't "pay" extra or actually come up with something actually tricky other than saying "I do a disarm" and you didnt allocate a power choice like say the 17th level fighter power then should it have un-due impact? It makes the game more dicey to have instant death maneuvers whatever skin you put on them because they dont tie in with the hit points as fatigue and luck and morale... system. The true completely weapon gone move changes things from d12 to d4 and removes 2 or three from proficiency and 1 to 6 for the weapon/implement bonus. I am thinking I want to figure out what level encounter or daily power a riposting disarm might be. Its less than the 17th level fighers power... obviously how low can we go. I am thinking quite a ways lower depending on other details. [/QUOTE]

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