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<blockquote data-quote="toucanbuzz" data-source="post: 8038218" data-attributes="member: 19270"><p>This isn't a hard and fast rule.</p><p></p><p>The real question is whether you can freely interact with items in the <strong>"controlled space"</strong> of another. It's without debate that you can freely interact with objects not in control of anyone or yourself; they're on the list of examples.</p><p></p><p>In the PHB (p191), a creature's <strong>space</strong> is defined as the effective area they <strong>control</strong> during combat. Since the weapon drops at their feet, it's still in their controlled space. This keeps enemies from simply declaring they're grabbing a potion or wand off your belt. So, can you "freely" interact with objects that are in the effective controlled space of another?</p><p></p><p><strong>First,</strong> <a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Combat#toc_15" target="_blank">read the list of examples for free object interactions</a>. Read as a whole, they're all things either <strong>you already control or that you can control with ease.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Second, </strong>compare this to other similar actions that have a specific rule. When we're trying to lift someone's coin purse with our <em>Sleight of Hand, </em>it's not a "free" interact with objects even though a coin purse might be similar to lifting a bauble off a table. Someone else has contested control of what we're trying to interact with, so it takes an Action in the form of a contested check.</p><p></p><p>So, let's simply apply this to examples from the "free" interact list.</p><p></p><p><strong>Lever on the Wall: </strong>sure, normally free. If it's stuck, might have to Use Object action or a skill check. Now, if a guard is standing in front of the lever and his space controls the area, would it make sense to let anyone "freely" ignore him and pull the lever as he swings his sword and pushes his body in the way? <em>Rhetorical, of course not.</em></p><p></p><p><strong>Axe on the Floor: </strong>sure, normally free, when it's my axe in my space or unattended. Apply same rationale as above. I'm attempting to interact with an object in the controlled space of another, no different than using <em>sleight of hand.</em></p><p></p><p><strong>So, can I pickup my enemy's weapon? </strong>Absolutely! It's in the RAW already. A skilled Fighter with Extra Attack could (1) substitute Disarm for an attack, then (2) substitute a Shove for an attack or perhaps, the DM allows it, use Overrun as a bonus action to push through the enemy's space. Then, when control space over the dropped weapon has been disrupted, the Fighter could "freely" interact with the weapon, kicking it if he has no free hands or picking it up if he does, or even dragging it with his foot and standing on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="toucanbuzz, post: 8038218, member: 19270"] This isn't a hard and fast rule. The real question is whether you can freely interact with items in the [B]"controlled space"[/B] of another. It's without debate that you can freely interact with objects not in control of anyone or yourself; they're on the list of examples. In the PHB (p191), a creature's [B]space[/B] is defined as the effective area they [B]control[/B] during combat. Since the weapon drops at their feet, it's still in their controlled space. This keeps enemies from simply declaring they're grabbing a potion or wand off your belt. So, can you "freely" interact with objects that are in the effective controlled space of another? [B]First,[/B] [URL='https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Combat#toc_15']read the list of examples for free object interactions[/URL]. Read as a whole, they're all things either [B]you already control or that you can control with ease. Second, [/B]compare this to other similar actions that have a specific rule. When we're trying to lift someone's coin purse with our [I]Sleight of Hand, [/I]it's not a "free" interact with objects even though a coin purse might be similar to lifting a bauble off a table. Someone else has contested control of what we're trying to interact with, so it takes an Action in the form of a contested check. So, let's simply apply this to examples from the "free" interact list. [B]Lever on the Wall: [/B]sure, normally free. If it's stuck, might have to Use Object action or a skill check. Now, if a guard is standing in front of the lever and his space controls the area, would it make sense to let anyone "freely" ignore him and pull the lever as he swings his sword and pushes his body in the way? [I]Rhetorical, of course not.[/I] [B]Axe on the Floor: [/B]sure, normally free, when it's my axe in my space or unattended. Apply same rationale as above. I'm attempting to interact with an object in the controlled space of another, no different than using [I]sleight of hand.[/I] [B]So, can I pickup my enemy's weapon? [/B]Absolutely! It's in the RAW already. A skilled Fighter with Extra Attack could (1) substitute Disarm for an attack, then (2) substitute a Shove for an attack or perhaps, the DM allows it, use Overrun as a bonus action to push through the enemy's space. Then, when control space over the dropped weapon has been disrupted, the Fighter could "freely" interact with the weapon, kicking it if he has no free hands or picking it up if he does, or even dragging it with his foot and standing on it. [/QUOTE]
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