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<blockquote data-quote="mvincent" data-source="post: 3342322" data-attributes="member: 27034"><p>From the 3.5 FAQ:</p><p>"<span style="font-size: 9px"><em><strong>If an enemy makes an attack against me that would</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em><strong>provoke an attack of opportunity (such as a disarm or</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em><strong>grapple attempt), do I get the attack of opportunity if I</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em><strong>can’t reach him? Would the Close-Quarters Fighting feat</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em><strong>help at all?</strong></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>Strictly speaking, if you don’t threaten an enemy, you can’t</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>make attacks of opportunity against that enemy. Thus, if an</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>ogre tried to sunder your elf’s longsword from 10 feet away,</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>you wouldn’t get an attack of opportunity against the ogre</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>(since an elf wielding a longsword doesn’t threaten an enemy</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>10 feet away). This is true even if the ogre is reaching out with</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>his hand, such as when trying to grapple you.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>Even the Close-Quarters Fighting feat doesn’t help, since</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>that feat applies only when the attack of opportunity against a</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>grappling foe normally would be denied by “a feat or special</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>ability that would normally bypass the attack” and lists</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>Improved Grapple and improved grab as examples.</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>If, as DM, this bothers your sensibilities and you and your</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>players are willing to bend the letter of the rules a bit, consider</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>the following house rule that the Sage has used in his games in</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>the past: If a foe would provoke an attack of opportunity with</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>any action that brings him (or something he holds) into contact</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>with you or your space, you may make an attack of opportunity</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>against the foe (or the object he holds, if that’s what’s</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>contacting you). This means that an ogre trying to initiate a</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>grapple would provoke an attack of opportunity that you could</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>make against the ogre (since his hand and arm are clearly</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>coming within your reach to grab you), while the same ogre</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>trying to sunder your weapon with his greatclub would provoke</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>an attack of opportunity that you could make only against the</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>greatclub (that is, with a disarm or sunder attempt).</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em></em></span></p><p></p><p>The most favored compromise I've seen on the boards is to not allow AoO's if you don't actually threaten the opponent, but to allow a readied action to attack an opponent's weapon, arm, etc. when it comes within reach. Balance-wise, this has yielded better results for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mvincent, post: 3342322, member: 27034"] From the 3.5 FAQ: "[SIZE="1"][I][B]If an enemy makes an attack against me that would provoke an attack of opportunity (such as a disarm or grapple attempt), do I get the attack of opportunity if I can’t reach him? Would the Close-Quarters Fighting feat help at all?[/B] Strictly speaking, if you don’t threaten an enemy, you can’t make attacks of opportunity against that enemy. Thus, if an ogre tried to sunder your elf’s longsword from 10 feet away, you wouldn’t get an attack of opportunity against the ogre (since an elf wielding a longsword doesn’t threaten an enemy 10 feet away). This is true even if the ogre is reaching out with his hand, such as when trying to grapple you. Even the Close-Quarters Fighting feat doesn’t help, since that feat applies only when the attack of opportunity against a grappling foe normally would be denied by “a feat or special ability that would normally bypass the attack” and lists Improved Grapple and improved grab as examples. If, as DM, this bothers your sensibilities and you and your players are willing to bend the letter of the rules a bit, consider the following house rule that the Sage has used in his games in the past: If a foe would provoke an attack of opportunity with any action that brings him (or something he holds) into contact with you or your space, you may make an attack of opportunity against the foe (or the object he holds, if that’s what’s contacting you). This means that an ogre trying to initiate a grapple would provoke an attack of opportunity that you could make against the ogre (since his hand and arm are clearly coming within your reach to grab you), while the same ogre trying to sunder your weapon with his greatclub would provoke an attack of opportunity that you could make only against the greatclub (that is, with a disarm or sunder attempt). [/I][/SIZE] The most favored compromise I've seen on the boards is to not allow AoO's if you don't actually threaten the opponent, but to allow a readied action to attack an opponent's weapon, arm, etc. when it comes within reach. Balance-wise, this has yielded better results for me. [/QUOTE]
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