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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4191415" data-attributes="member: 4937">First, starting the campaign in a prison is just starting a campaign in a dungeon with a plausible excuse for how you got there.&nbsp; It's better than starting a campaign in an inn, and it has the advantage of the adventure starting on page one rather than page 12 (or 30) as some even published adventures.Secondly, a campaign in which players can't be captured is one where they can't lose without a TPK.&nbsp; It's always good to have lesser means of enforcing defeat than simply killing all the PCs.A feel for you though, because the rules definately aren't set up to handle this sort of thing.&nbsp; My first instinct is to say that players with problimatic powers start the game drugged, and that the first obvious skill challenge is somehow managing to trick the gaurds so that the drugged players don't get thier daily dose of herbs/gas/whatever.&nbsp; However, the problem with this is that per the rules things don't knock you out for lenghty periods.&nbsp; You've just introduced a substance with an extended effect where saves don't limit the effect to in practice 2-5 rounds.&nbsp; As a player, getting ahold of this game breaking drug and using it against enemies is going to be a high priority.&nbsp; Keep that in mind when designing the scenario.The other thing I would say is that in any campaign, utterly common abilities should have utterly common defences.&nbsp; If fey step exists, then fey step-kryptonite exists (and is common and cheap) because the alternative - that anyone suspected of being able to fey step is simply summarily executed rather than jailed is problimatic.&nbsp; As others have suggested, I definately would go with something like 'cold iron shackles' inhibit fey step.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4191415, member: 4937"] First, starting the campaign in a prison is just starting a campaign in a dungeon with a plausible excuse for how you got there. It's better than starting a campaign in an inn, and it has the advantage of the adventure starting on page one rather than page 12 (or 30) as some even published adventures. Secondly, a campaign in which players can't be captured is one where they can't lose without a TPK. It's always good to have lesser means of enforcing defeat than simply killing all the PCs. A feel for you though, because the rules definately aren't set up to handle this sort of thing. My first instinct is to say that players with problimatic powers start the game drugged, and that the first obvious skill challenge is somehow managing to trick the gaurds so that the drugged players don't get thier daily dose of herbs/gas/whatever. However, the problem with this is that per the rules things don't knock you out for lenghty periods. You've just introduced a substance with an extended effect where saves don't limit the effect to in practice 2-5 rounds. As a player, getting ahold of this game breaking drug and using it against enemies is going to be a high priority. Keep that in mind when designing the scenario. The other thing I would say is that in any campaign, utterly common abilities should have utterly common defences. If fey step exists, then fey step-kryptonite exists (and is common and cheap) because the alternative - that anyone suspected of being able to fey step is simply summarily executed rather than jailed is problimatic. As others have suggested, I definately would go with something like 'cold iron shackles' inhibit fey step. [/QUOTE]

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