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Message: <blockquote data-quote="evileeyore" data-source="post: 1598967" data-attributes="member: 1768">Having disarmed people of their sheilds temporarily I would go with these rules:+4 modifier allows the disarmer to knock/wrest the sheild aside until the sheild user gets his next turn.  This represents the shield user losing grip and it hanging ineffectually on his arm, or someone is holding it out of the way.I've done this in Boffer LARPs and seen it happen in SCA events of sword and board versus two weapons fighters.+10 modifier rips the shield from the user, either breaking the buckles or straps.  Also not hard to do, agian I've seen this in SCA tourneys, mostly when the sheild bearer faced two-handed weapons.  It happens in BLARP more often than people would like...Or just choose a number that feels right for you, but remain consistent.  It shouldn't matter whether the shield is employed as a weapon or not.  As well as its size.  Larger sheilds are no harder to disarm than smaller ones.  Infact tower sheilds are down right easy...--EvilE</blockquote>