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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4883322" data-attributes="member: 82504">Note the abilities and what they are targeting some are indeed magic.I would say a paragon level burst 3 for a fighter would be too much but not for all the classes. Its one of the problems of not making these normal class powers.. a wizard of course at paragon tier shocking the weapons out of their hands is quite easy and reasonable... a warlord talks them in to dropping there weapons .. of course intimidate already lets you do anyway. ;-)I seen Zorro disarm half a dozen guardsman by dropping a chandelier and intertwining all there blades in it. (he whistled the all raised there arms above there heads when it fell they entangled). or maybe he immobiized them or something else.Over the course of 6 seconds in real life how far can a fast man move 180ft? ok that is a flat out sprinting ;-) ... a blast of 3 is 15 foot radius I bet you can reach quite a bit with a two handed weapon in that radius... is it slightly anime maybe maybe not but actually fun. My ninja drops a smoke bomb on the area and is a blur in the smoke with weapons going clunk.Yes some of the disarms on his list are magical (have you seen some of the paragon tier stuff some of even the martial stuff has amazing elements.) and others are the impact of intimidation (how far can you shout) Charisma versus Will should also be doable by martial types.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 4883322, member: 82504"] Note the abilities and what they are targeting some are indeed magic. I would say a paragon level burst 3 for a fighter would be too much but not for all the classes. Its one of the problems of not making these normal class powers.. a wizard of course at paragon tier shocking the weapons out of their hands is quite easy and reasonable... a warlord talks them in to dropping there weapons .. of course intimidate already lets you do anyway. ;-) I seen Zorro disarm half a dozen guardsman by dropping a chandelier and intertwining all there blades in it. (he whistled the all raised there arms above there heads when it fell they entangled). or maybe he immobiized them or something else. Over the course of 6 seconds in real life how far can a fast man move 180ft? ok that is a flat out sprinting ;-) ... a blast of 3 is 15 foot radius I bet you can reach quite a bit with a two handed weapon in that radius... is it slightly anime maybe maybe not but actually fun. My ninja drops a smoke bomb on the area and is a blur in the smoke with weapons going clunk. Yes some of the disarms on his list are magical (have you seen some of the paragon tier stuff some of even the martial stuff has amazing elements.) and others are the impact of intimidation (how far can you shout) Charisma versus Will should also be doable by martial types. [/QUOTE]

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