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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AuraSeer" data-source="post: 2877250" data-attributes="member: 1331">There's no contradiction. The spell says where the item is located within the enclosing space. It doesn't say where the space itself is.Consider this situation: some pesky archmage steals the Crown Jewels and retreats to his own private demiplane. It's a very small plane, only a mile in diameter, but the owner has built a palace for himself in the middle. There is only one way in and out, a permanent portal that links the demiplane to a fixed spot on the Prime.The royal wizard casts discern location to try and find the stolen jewels. The spell reveals that they are "in the demiplane of Azgablar, in the palace called Quiet Retreat, in the second-floor guest room, in a glass display case." It doesn't say how to get to Azgablar, nor how to find the portal leading there, but if you can reach the plane you know where to find the jewels.Make sense so far? Now take the palace away, and replace the demiplane with an even smaller one-- the interior of a portable hole. The jewels are "in an extradimensional space, in a metal box, on the ground, five feet from the exit portal" (because in a space that small, the portal is the only landmark). So if you get to the right ED space, you know exactly where the jewels are. It's finding the right space that presents the difficulty, especially since the only portal is folded up in somebody's pocket.</blockquote>