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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8806064" data-attributes="member: 29398">In part, I suspect, because too much emphasis was put on defeating them in combat, rather than &quot;defeating&quot; them by avoidance, bypassing, negotiation, or any other means.I'm not sure if this emphasis came from the player base's interpretation of the design or from an intentional design choice.Xp-for-gp was dropped.&nbsp; Also xp for &quot;good roleplay&quot; was dropped and I don't mind this at all: far too open to DM favouritism and abuse.&nbsp; So what's left?&nbsp; Xp for monsters defeated is granular (good), only they didn't state clearly enough what &quot;defeat&quot; actually means.&nbsp; Xp for story or mission completion isn't granular enough and is also hard to codify; and further, pushes a story-based play-style that doesn't mesh with West Marches or sandbox type of campaigns.Can't have been that dumb; as if it became the default it means nobody thought up anything less-dumb enough to take its place.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8806064, member: 29398"] In part, I suspect, because too much emphasis was put on defeating them in combat, rather than "defeating" them by avoidance, bypassing, negotiation, or any other means. I'm not sure if this emphasis came from the player base's interpretation of the design or from an intentional design choice. Xp-for-gp was dropped. Also xp for "good roleplay" was dropped and I don't mind this at all: far too open to DM favouritism and abuse. So what's left? Xp for monsters defeated is granular (good), only they didn't state clearly enough what "defeat" actually means. Xp for story or mission completion isn't granular enough and is also hard to codify; and further, pushes a story-based play-style that doesn't mesh with West Marches or sandbox type of campaigns. Can't have been that dumb; as if it became the default it means nobody thought up anything less-dumb enough to take its place. [/QUOTE]

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