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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 5546631" data-attributes="member: 20564">A lot of good ideas in terms of in-game reasons to keep going.&nbsp; That's something I know about and can already do, but it feels artificial to have every adventuring day be against a time limit/every extended rest interrupted/etc.&nbsp; I'm being a bit melodramatic because you switch up and try not to use the same device again soon.But really, in a well designed system, the mechanics support the feel.&nbsp; In this case the feel I want is &quot;heroes push beyond their limits&quot; (or at least comfort zones) and the mechanics are saying &quot;rest early / rest often&quot;.&nbsp; I can take care of the feel in-game, I'm looking at making the rules support the style of game I want to run.There were some mechanical suggestions.&nbsp; One I liked but ultimately won't use was that an extended rest only gives limited recovery before a milestone.&nbsp; I was looking for encouraging players to want to push, not penalizing them into doing what I want.&nbsp; Also there are times, say a &quot;random&quot; encounter when traveling that there might only be a single encounter in a day (or in several days).There's a feat (human only?) that gives bonuses to saves and such for each milestone, and a number of items that work better after the first milestone.&nbsp; Those are good examples of making people want to push on from their own free will.&nbsp; (The items are interesting, because it turns the &quot;rest and recover dailies before a big battle&quot; on it's head.)So, what suggestions do we have to make the rules support the wanted feel?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 5546631, member: 20564"] A lot of good ideas in terms of in-game reasons to keep going. That's something I know about and can already do, but it feels artificial to have every adventuring day be against a time limit/every extended rest interrupted/etc. I'm being a bit melodramatic because you switch up and try not to use the same device again soon. But really, in a well designed system, the mechanics support the feel. In this case the feel I want is "heroes push beyond their limits" (or at least comfort zones) and the mechanics are saying "rest early / rest often". I can take care of the feel in-game, I'm looking at making the rules support the style of game I want to run. There were some mechanical suggestions. One I liked but ultimately won't use was that an extended rest only gives limited recovery before a milestone. I was looking for encouraging players to want to push, not penalizing them into doing what I want. Also there are times, say a "random" encounter when traveling that there might only be a single encounter in a day (or in several days). There's a feat (human only?) that gives bonuses to saves and such for each milestone, and a number of items that work better after the first milestone. Those are good examples of making people want to push on from their own free will. (The items are interesting, because it turns the "rest and recover dailies before a big battle" on it's head.) So, what suggestions do we have to make the rules support the wanted feel? [/QUOTE]

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