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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 7252461" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I really would keep watch on that Tribble in Lorca's office now, that escape was too easy. (Unfortunately, easy escapes like that are a staple in Star Trek, so it's difficult to say if it wasn't just Starfleet's finest at work here.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you heard "American Officer convicted for mutiny aboard the USS General Ford in the Pacific Sea. Incidents between the General Ford and the Chinese navy, we're now officially at war with China", would you assume, "Oh, I guess this officer was just trying to stop a war"?</p><p></p><p>No, you would think there is probably not just a random correlalation, but assume a cause & effect. And the truth is that in the Battle of the Binary Stars, we could definitely say there wasn't. As viewers, we have access to the Klingon point of view, and we can figure: "Nah, probably nothing could stop the war." But even that isn't actually true. Just because T'Kuvma wanted to start a war doesn't mean the other houses would automatically follow him into it - they might decide that he's overestimating the Federation threat or their policies, and if they had simply opened fire, maybe they would have really stopped. Or maybe it would just another way to confirm their danger. Who knows. We also don't know what would have happened if Burnham would have stayed on the Starfleet doctrine and not incapacitate her Captain for a minute, and instead discussed constructively what to do.</p><p></p><p>What Starfleet however can actually be certain about is that Micheal Burnham violated Starfleet rules, attacked a superior officer, and commited munity. That's definitly something she can be convicted on, and there is no sign of extenuating circumstances like illegal orders given to her, or she saved someone's life.</p><p></p><p>And what everyone in Starfleet and in the Federation knows is that a Starfleet officer mutineered, during a delicate diplomatic situation, and the situation escalated into a full scale war. It just doesn't look good, and if something like this happened in the real world, you can bet people would put a blame on Micheal Burnham. But don't forget, it's not just Burnham that gets the blame. We see with civilians like Harry Mudd, that Starfleet also gets a blame. But of course within Starfleet, Starfleet doesn't blame itself, because they didn't want a war either. Everyone involved gets some of the blame, but the mutineer is the one most suspicious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 7252461, member: 710"] I really would keep watch on that Tribble in Lorca's office now, that escape was too easy. (Unfortunately, easy escapes like that are a staple in Star Trek, so it's difficult to say if it wasn't just Starfleet's finest at work here.) If you heard "American Officer convicted for mutiny aboard the USS General Ford in the Pacific Sea. Incidents between the General Ford and the Chinese navy, we're now officially at war with China", would you assume, "Oh, I guess this officer was just trying to stop a war"? No, you would think there is probably not just a random correlalation, but assume a cause & effect. And the truth is that in the Battle of the Binary Stars, we could definitely say there wasn't. As viewers, we have access to the Klingon point of view, and we can figure: "Nah, probably nothing could stop the war." But even that isn't actually true. Just because T'Kuvma wanted to start a war doesn't mean the other houses would automatically follow him into it - they might decide that he's overestimating the Federation threat or their policies, and if they had simply opened fire, maybe they would have really stopped. Or maybe it would just another way to confirm their danger. Who knows. We also don't know what would have happened if Burnham would have stayed on the Starfleet doctrine and not incapacitate her Captain for a minute, and instead discussed constructively what to do. What Starfleet however can actually be certain about is that Micheal Burnham violated Starfleet rules, attacked a superior officer, and commited munity. That's definitly something she can be convicted on, and there is no sign of extenuating circumstances like illegal orders given to her, or she saved someone's life. And what everyone in Starfleet and in the Federation knows is that a Starfleet officer mutineered, during a delicate diplomatic situation, and the situation escalated into a full scale war. It just doesn't look good, and if something like this happened in the real world, you can bet people would put a blame on Micheal Burnham. But don't forget, it's not just Burnham that gets the blame. We see with civilians like Harry Mudd, that Starfleet also gets a blame. But of course within Starfleet, Starfleet doesn't blame itself, because they didn't want a war either. Everyone involved gets some of the blame, but the mutineer is the one most suspicious. [/QUOTE]
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