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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7342416" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Good grief.</p><p></p><p>Culber's death is a HUGE character building moment for pretty much every character. It reverberates throughout the series. What? Because the character is gay we're not allowed to have anything bad happen to them now? No, that's crap. The character was killed, not because he was gay, but, because it was a major dramatic event for the show. </p><p></p><p>I mean, I'm suprised [MENTION=37579]Jester David[/MENTION] isn't more concerned with the earlier death of the tactical officer. After all, they killed off the first female tactical officer in Star Trek. Isn't that a big deal too? And they certainly killed her off with a lot less fanfare than Culber's death. </p><p></p><p>Why is killing off a love interest in a drama a bad thing? It happens pretty darn often and it's pretty much par for the course and has been in drama for centuries. Spinning this as an automatic negative and trying to imply that the character was killed because he was gay is a complete misreading of the work and deliberately misleading.</p><p></p><p>I mean, you're not even using the trope right. The trope that you link to states that </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yet, there's no revenge plot. None. Stamets isn't consumed by revenge or even anger really. Sure, he doesn't like Voq/Ash, but, he doesn't actually do more than show some pretty understandable anger.</p><p></p><p>Again, look, I get that you don't like the show, but, sheesh, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find justifications.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7342416, member: 22779"] Good grief. Culber's death is a HUGE character building moment for pretty much every character. It reverberates throughout the series. What? Because the character is gay we're not allowed to have anything bad happen to them now? No, that's crap. The character was killed, not because he was gay, but, because it was a major dramatic event for the show. I mean, I'm suprised [MENTION=37579]Jester David[/MENTION] isn't more concerned with the earlier death of the tactical officer. After all, they killed off the first female tactical officer in Star Trek. Isn't that a big deal too? And they certainly killed her off with a lot less fanfare than Culber's death. Why is killing off a love interest in a drama a bad thing? It happens pretty darn often and it's pretty much par for the course and has been in drama for centuries. Spinning this as an automatic negative and trying to imply that the character was killed because he was gay is a complete misreading of the work and deliberately misleading. I mean, you're not even using the trope right. The trope that you link to states that Yet, there's no revenge plot. None. Stamets isn't consumed by revenge or even anger really. Sure, he doesn't like Voq/Ash, but, he doesn't actually do more than show some pretty understandable anger. Again, look, I get that you don't like the show, but, sheesh, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find justifications. [/QUOTE]
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