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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7342472" data-attributes="member: 22779">Killing a love interest character isn't automatically fridging.&nbsp; The point of fridging is that the character is killed in a particularly gruesome way in order to drive a revenge plotline.Culber wasn't killed in any sort of gruesome way.&nbsp; Terrible yes, but, not gruesome.&nbsp; It's not like Voq went Hannibal Lechter on him.&nbsp; He broke his neck because he wanted to silence the doctor and hide his Klingon background.&nbsp; He had an in-character reason to kill Culber that had nothing to do with Stammets.&nbsp; That, right there, makes it not fridging.&nbsp; And the scene with Ash in the mess hall after returning and his secret coming out had virtually nothing to do with Michael.&nbsp; It was about showing empathy and mercy.&nbsp; And it was about Culber.&nbsp; After all, no one on Discovery knew that Ash had tried to kill Michael.&nbsp; It was all hushed up.&nbsp; So, yes, the death of Culber had ripples all through the show.&nbsp; And it certainly wasn't &quot;fridging&quot;, regardless of how you want to spin it.I'd point out too that it wasn't done to make Stammets feel bad.&nbsp; Stammets doesn't go all revengy on anyone.&nbsp; He doesn't hate Klingons.&nbsp; He probably does hate Ash, but, again, doesn't do anything about it.&nbsp; It's a pretty believable reaction when Ash tries to apologize to Stammets.&nbsp; Meh, people are just looking for stuff to bitch about.&nbsp; The season finale was about as solid of a Trek ending as you could possibly have.&nbsp; Well done them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7342472, member: 22779"] Killing a love interest character isn't automatically fridging. The point of fridging is that the character is killed in a particularly gruesome way in order to drive a revenge plotline. Culber wasn't killed in any sort of gruesome way. Terrible yes, but, not gruesome. It's not like Voq went Hannibal Lechter on him. He broke his neck because he wanted to silence the doctor and hide his Klingon background. He had an in-character reason to kill Culber that had nothing to do with Stammets. That, right there, makes it not fridging. And the scene with Ash in the mess hall after returning and his secret coming out had virtually nothing to do with Michael. It was about showing empathy and mercy. And it was about Culber. After all, no one on Discovery knew that Ash had tried to kill Michael. It was all hushed up. So, yes, the death of Culber had ripples all through the show. And it certainly wasn't "fridging", regardless of how you want to spin it. I'd point out too that it wasn't done to make Stammets feel bad. Stammets doesn't go all revengy on anyone. He doesn't hate Klingons. He probably does hate Ash, but, again, doesn't do anything about it. It's a pretty believable reaction when Ash tries to apologize to Stammets. Meh, people are just looking for stuff to bitch about. The season finale was about as solid of a Trek ending as you could possibly have. Well done them. [/QUOTE]

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