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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8263354" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, assume we accept the fundamental premise of the thread, then why cannot we posit two opposed forces, neither one of which is really willing to push things to a decisive fight. So they spar and 'game', etc. but it isn't GAMIST in the sense that it is not serious because we're playing an RPG. Think of the wars in Medieval Italy where troupes of mercenaries basically paraded around 'battlefields' and let a few pints of obligatory blood, and then each side took its fee and went home and had a party. I mean, that's a bit extreme, but this is basically how a lot of conflict works. Each side is really trying to intimidate the other, get some advantages, nobody is willing to commit to a real battle. Eventually the two sides may effectively even become 'allies' in a sense, each upholding its side of a 'conflict'.That kind of thing might even be a fun scenario.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8263354, member: 82106"] Well, assume we accept the fundamental premise of the thread, then why cannot we posit two opposed forces, neither one of which is really willing to push things to a decisive fight. So they spar and 'game', etc. but it isn't GAMIST in the sense that it is not serious because we're playing an RPG. Think of the wars in Medieval Italy where troupes of mercenaries basically paraded around 'battlefields' and let a few pints of obligatory blood, and then each side took its fee and went home and had a party. I mean, that's a bit extreme, but this is basically how a lot of conflict works. Each side is really trying to intimidate the other, get some advantages, nobody is willing to commit to a real battle. Eventually the two sides may effectively even become 'allies' in a sense, each upholding its side of a 'conflict'. That kind of thing might even be a fun scenario. [/QUOTE]

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