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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8264159" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Human beings are never unbiased. Not at all. No amount of dice you roll is going to matter, the very things you pick to dice for and not dice for are arbitrary, selected because they will or will not result in what you do or do not want to have happen, the true agenda. Lest the game be a failure, this true agenda must, as some others have suggested in a slightly different way, ultimately be about gamist considerations. Thus 'CAW' or 'CAS' is merely color, just a type of 'spin' you put on the events, their tone. There's no actual figuring out of warlike anything.</p><p></p><p>If you want to see what a REAL wargame RP scenario is like, play a Free Kriegspiel sometime. Noting that is exactly the sort of thing that Dave Arneson was into. I can believe that he could run a campaign where WAR was figuratively fought on a realistic basis, but in no case does the referee in a game like that play either side. There's a good reason for that, it doesn't work. There is ALWAYS a 'red team'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8264159, member: 82106"] Human beings are never unbiased. Not at all. No amount of dice you roll is going to matter, the very things you pick to dice for and not dice for are arbitrary, selected because they will or will not result in what you do or do not want to have happen, the true agenda. Lest the game be a failure, this true agenda must, as some others have suggested in a slightly different way, ultimately be about gamist considerations. Thus 'CAW' or 'CAS' is merely color, just a type of 'spin' you put on the events, their tone. There's no actual figuring out of warlike anything. If you want to see what a REAL wargame RP scenario is like, play a Free Kriegspiel sometime. Noting that is exactly the sort of thing that Dave Arneson was into. I can believe that he could run a campaign where WAR was figuratively fought on a realistic basis, but in no case does the referee in a game like that play either side. There's a good reason for that, it doesn't work. There is ALWAYS a 'red team'. [/QUOTE]
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