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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8265289" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Cheating, or a reasonable extrapolation on the question of "How did these goblins, who are so weak that a level 3 party can crush them, survive? Oh, there's a dragon whom they sometimes serve, and he will back them up." I mean, it seems like an obnoxious and perhaps deficient GM who simply springs that at the critical moment and TPKs the party, sure. That has less to do with it being 'unrealistic' (what does that even mean) vs just being unfun. Clearly fun would be giving the players a hint, or maybe a clue bat bash, that they're in extreme danger, and then see what they do about it. This is why dramatic/gamist needs constantly intrude on the concept of the RPG as 'wargame' where there is some fixed notion of 'fairness' or 'play inside agreed bounds'. The agreed bounds are pretty much 'what makes a reasonably fun game'. </p><p></p><p>I guess we can posit that there is a table somewhere where being crushed by a green dragon at level 3 without warning is fun!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8265289, member: 82106"] Cheating, or a reasonable extrapolation on the question of "How did these goblins, who are so weak that a level 3 party can crush them, survive? Oh, there's a dragon whom they sometimes serve, and he will back them up." I mean, it seems like an obnoxious and perhaps deficient GM who simply springs that at the critical moment and TPKs the party, sure. That has less to do with it being 'unrealistic' (what does that even mean) vs just being unfun. Clearly fun would be giving the players a hint, or maybe a clue bat bash, that they're in extreme danger, and then see what they do about it. This is why dramatic/gamist needs constantly intrude on the concept of the RPG as 'wargame' where there is some fixed notion of 'fairness' or 'play inside agreed bounds'. The agreed bounds are pretty much 'what makes a reasonably fun game'. I guess we can posit that there is a table somewhere where being crushed by a green dragon at level 3 without warning is fun! [/QUOTE]
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