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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lutecius" data-source="post: 4548810" data-attributes="member: 60332">And yet, having a limited control, narrative or otherwise, over something that used to be "at will" is not a gain.Yeah, so were flexible multiclassing and the end of vancian casting <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm    :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" />Anyway, I was referring to the per-encounter/day mechanic but now you mention it, I also think many martial powers mostly exist for gamist reasons. Defenders must draw attacks, leaders must "heal" or move allies around… and to hell with consistency.The flimsiness of some power descriptions and the lack of correlation between some attacks and their effects don’t scream "cinematically cool" to me.I might be wrong, but I’m still not convinced. The "narrative" benefits of the per-encounter/day system are pretty trivial compared to storytelling mechanics or even action points.I’ve also read quite a few designer interviews, including the one you linked to. The only similarity with indie games Heinsoo mentions here is the emphasis on gameplay, not narration. And the one inspiration I read Mearls repeatedly mention was euro(board)games, not Sorcerer. Which actually reinforces my opinion that in this case, the "fortune in the middle" justification is just that, a justification for primarily gamist mechanics, not a goal in itself.You could have fooled me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Has it? ever?And even though you never played 4e, you’re the best judge of what arguments are ridiculous because…?Please don’t take this as an attack but you often refer to your sig. Your posts though, are generally in line with what any 4e fan would say. And it’s okay. Just don’t use the fact that you never played 4e as an excuse. It’s not, and none is needed. PRIDE!Good point but shush. Don’t bring the hp argument over here <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></blockquote>

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