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Message: <blockquote data-quote="paradox42" data-source="post: 2906616" data-attributes="member: 29746">Have to disagree here- Ymir was specifically assumed in the myths to have humanoid form. His skull, for example, formed the sky, and bits of brain still stuck to it formed clouds. Dreadens don't have heads, and their "brain" is made of nerve clusters scattered throughout their complete forms- no centralized brain mass in other words.Apsu, quite likely, could be a Draeden- I've never seen a physical description of him, and he is an elder entity that existed before the current universe. Tiamat, I'm more skeptical; she's too dragon-like. But saying the current one is a mere remnant of an original does make a Draeden-Tiamat more plausible; it would certainly explain the rumored connection between Draedens and dragons (which, personally, I never saw; the entities are just too wildly and radically different to be truly related).Tough one- it's supposedly dragon-like in being a "serpent," but the many-heads thing does seem Draeden-esque- as does its ability to scare a deity.Almost certainly a Draeden- it fits all the criteria except, perhaps, eating all matter in general that it finds. Very nice catch!Draedens have no eyes, so I'd think this one unlikely, though having myriad tentacles could be Draeden-esque. The Great Mother does fit other criteria of Draedenhood, being a strange entity (that's not quite a "god" as such) from beyond known reality, and being an unthinkably enormous creature that doesn't really notice anything smaller than itself except as food.Ooo, good thought! Most of them aren't described, and their postulated traits (particularly in being "older than the current deities, perhaps older than the multiverse itself") are very Draedenlike.I'd have to disagree with this one, simply because the mythology behind Tharizdun specifically states he was a god who essentially went mad and turned against the rest. Draedens are a race of ridiculously powerful beings that have never been allied with the current gods (or Immortals), they just do their own thing and (under the truce) stay out of the deities' collective way.Eternally hungry entity (check). No eyes in described form (check). Lots of mouths in described form (check). Lots of tentacles in described form (check). Doesn't care at all about its worshippers, who seem to derive power from it more as a function of being in its wake than any effort on its part to reward them for service (check). Yup- besides Ilsensine, this is the most Draeden-esque entity in D&D canon right now. Nice thinking!</blockquote>

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