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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 5836496" data-attributes="member: 167">It's interesting to read about old things of D&D. Honestly I never found them so interesting. As an idea certainly, but presentation had always felt bit, dunno, "my monster is bigger than yours". I own epic bestiary, but to be totally honest, monsters there are bit boring. Some good ideas, but kinda not something I use when I run epic games. Far too many angels for example. Far too much plague of high ac, forced reason why make parties out of 60th lv characters.  But book was using epic rules as they were made (bad IMO), so such is to be expected. I rather liked reading it though. I guess the book would have been more about something "elder evil" style monsters.Draedens are sort of lovely despite what I just said. I play mostly using Scarred Lands and Golarion these days and they have enough things we have invented already that make a better fit.I recall I made some Draeden-esque plot-line to my Greyhawk game. It included things like "Book of Chaos" from times before cosmic wheel existed like "today". And things older gods had lied to younger ones, and how they had really imprisoned Tharizdun. Ah the nostologia. My sis at times asks me to continue storyline, though she is only player of whose whereabouts I even know.I didn't use them in my Mystara games before that, though. I had more storylines involing dark secrets of Glantri (loved that book), which I naturally expanded quite a lot. And immortal pc:s were mosty facing off agents of entropy and "living black hole".</blockquote>

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