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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ixal" data-source="post: 8780756" data-attributes="member: 7030132">A proper cleric in D&D is someone who has his prayers heard and granted. No university schooling required.No, only a small handful of people can do it. Those blessed by deities (and other deity like beings), those with exceptional heritage or highly learned ones.Meaning that the vast majority of people will not even come close to be a spellcaster and be able to do what they are capable of.And because they do not grow up with a rulebook in hand it will seem to them that spellcasters are superhuman and blessed by the divine. Hence why they have more legitimacy to rule than ordinary men.No. Stop thinking in terms of HP and attack bonus. A fighter, no matter how high level, still does the same as the lowly farmer who took up arms. Wield a sword, spear or bow. More skilled of course, but what he does is still relateable to normal people.Not so spellcasting. That is a whole different world for common people and they have absolutely no idea how this is done. Hence for them it is superhuman.So basically you want to ignore everything that is against your argument. The time before the medieval era, the non european medieval era and the times after the medieval era where divine rule was common? And that despite D&D being a kitchen sink of everything? (Also you have no problem with using non-european examples below. How strange)Basically the only time where divine rule was not used for legitimacy was the short period in europe between the fall of western rome and the establishment of the carolingian empireWhy should this time be representative and not all the other places and times were rules was sanctioned by divine mandate? Especially as said rule also got implemented in Europe?Again you are confusing strength with legitimacy.While being a weak ruler invites challenge just being weak is not automatically being illegitimate. They are still "of royal blood" and their rule sanctioned by the divine.Or in D&D terms even a level 1 spellcaster is able to perform superhuman feats which would support his right to rule over ordinary men.Is that how you want to discuss? Holding your hands over your ears and screaming no instead of bringing your own arguments?Why do you think that even though divine rule became the common form of legitimacy and always having been in other parts of the world being a (divine) spellcaster, the ultimate form of divine mandate, would nit be required to maintain ones legitimacy?</blockquote>

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