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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8783970" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I'm not perpetuating misinformation, I'm replying to posts as I read them. And trying to hold multiple different conversations. I addressed your point earlier on how I missed that the rule only applied to tools and languages. </p><p></p><p>Of course, you have to be train to learn a skill. Otherwise, no one would have any skills. It isn't like you are born with them after all. It is just a question of how long it would take. </p><p></p><p>Also, it isn't really reasonable to say that PCs are learning 50 times faster than everyone else. That's a bit ludicrous. And while a blacksmithing apprenticeship may have taken 8 years, that doesn't mean it took 8 years to learn the skill. See, going to <a href="https://workingtheflame.com/how-to-become-a-blacksmith/" target="_blank">How to Become a Blacksmith 2022 (Things To Know)</a> it turns out that in the modern world it can take a TWO year vocational degree to learn to become a blacksmith. </p><p></p><p>Are we FOUR TIMES smarter than everyone from the past, able to learn at a vastly accelerated rate?! Probably not. More likely, the 8 years for an apprenticeship was more of a financial compensation to the teacher, who after taking the time to teach an apprentice would have free labor working for them, and not have a rival taking their business. It also may have been additional labor given in exchange for the tools that apprentices were often gifted. </p><p></p><p>So, if you want to use the two year model of modern blacksmithing teaching, we have roughly 100 weeks, which is back down to that 20 times faster number. And it turns out, modern education doesn't have you learning only a single skill, in dedicated focus, for the entire time. You often are only going to a specific class for an hour a day, and that two year program involves a lot of non-blacksmithing classes. So the time frame is likely even smaller than the 100 weeks. Unless you feel that knowing literature is a requirement for blacksmithing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8783970, member: 6801228"] I'm not perpetuating misinformation, I'm replying to posts as I read them. And trying to hold multiple different conversations. I addressed your point earlier on how I missed that the rule only applied to tools and languages. Of course, you have to be train to learn a skill. Otherwise, no one would have any skills. It isn't like you are born with them after all. It is just a question of how long it would take. Also, it isn't really reasonable to say that PCs are learning 50 times faster than everyone else. That's a bit ludicrous. And while a blacksmithing apprenticeship may have taken 8 years, that doesn't mean it took 8 years to learn the skill. See, going to [URL="https://workingtheflame.com/how-to-become-a-blacksmith/"]How to Become a Blacksmith 2022 (Things To Know)[/URL] it turns out that in the modern world it can take a TWO year vocational degree to learn to become a blacksmith. Are we FOUR TIMES smarter than everyone from the past, able to learn at a vastly accelerated rate?! Probably not. More likely, the 8 years for an apprenticeship was more of a financial compensation to the teacher, who after taking the time to teach an apprentice would have free labor working for them, and not have a rival taking their business. It also may have been additional labor given in exchange for the tools that apprentices were often gifted. So, if you want to use the two year model of modern blacksmithing teaching, we have roughly 100 weeks, which is back down to that 20 times faster number. And it turns out, modern education doesn't have you learning only a single skill, in dedicated focus, for the entire time. You often are only going to a specific class for an hour a day, and that two year program involves a lot of non-blacksmithing classes. So the time frame is likely even smaller than the 100 weeks. Unless you feel that knowing literature is a requirement for blacksmithing. [/QUOTE]
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