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<blockquote data-quote="Scott DeWar" data-source="post: 4735893" data-attributes="member: 49929">armor check pennaltyI do. gives them notice yoou understand what it is and how it does not apply to your characterit does not sound familiar to me either. what context is it in? can you give me a link to it? I have never seen it my self. it might mean the spell save dc for each level of spell. (10+spell level+int mod+other mods&nbsp;I am once again not sure of the context, but it could mean class abilities on progression charts.i would recommend on those that you have ranks in, then as yoou use cirtain skills regularly you can add those for simple refrenceas an example i present you with my character pendrake utherman, fighter 4. just plain fighter.notice that there are un ranked skills listed. those were called upon quite often when he was fighting against the blacklilly thievs, and for easy refrence for often used untrained skills, i listed them.[code][B]Skill Points:[/B] (2+1) X 4 (fighter lv 1) +4 (human race bonus) = 162+1+1 (int +1, human bonus +1) = +4 skill points /level&nbsp;after 1st&nbsp; total at level 4: 28[B]Max Ranks (class/crossclass):[/B] 7/3.5[B]Skills:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ranks&nbsp; Mod&nbsp; Misc&nbsp; Total[/B]&nbsp;&nbsp; acpClimb *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -3Craft, leatherworking *&nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +8Craft, scrimshaw&nbsp; *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +4Diplomacy&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +0Gather Info&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +0Handle Animal&nbsp; *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2Jump *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +5&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -3Listen&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +0Ride *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; +2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +6Swim *&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; +3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -6Spot&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +0Use rope&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; +2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +2(*) denotes class skill[/code]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott DeWar, post: 4735893, member: 49929"] armor check pennalty I do. gives them notice yoou understand what it is and how it does not apply to your character it does not sound familiar to me either. what context is it in? can you give me a link to it? I have never seen it my self. it might mean the spell save dc for each level of spell. (10+spell level+int mod+other mods I am once again not sure of the context, but it [u]could[/u] mean class abilities on progression charts. i would recommend on those that you have ranks in, then as yoou use cirtain skills regularly you can add those for simple refrence as an example i present you with my character pendrake utherman, fighter 4. just plain fighter. notice that there are un ranked skills listed. those were called upon quite often when he was fighting against the blacklilly thievs, and for easy refrence for often used untrained skills, i listed them. [code] [B]Skill Points:[/B] (2+1) X 4 (fighter lv 1) +4 (human race bonus) = 16 2+1+1 (int +1, human bonus +1) = +4 skill points /level after 1st total at level 4: 28 [B]Max Ranks (class/crossclass):[/B] 7/3.5 [B]Skills: Ranks Mod Misc Total[/B] acp Climb * 3 +3 +3 -3 Craft, leatherworking * 7 +1 +8 Craft, scrimshaw * 3 +1 +4 Diplomacy 0 0 +0 Gather Info 0 0 +0 Handle Animal * 2 0 +2 Jump * 5 +3 +5 -3 Listen 0 0 +0 Ride * 4 +2 +6 Swim * 4 +3 +1 -6 Spot 0 0 +0 Use rope 0 +2 +2 (*) denotes class skill [/code] [/QUOTE]

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