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<blockquote data-quote="AmerginLiath" data-source="post: 6436164" data-attributes="member: 777">I think that part of the issue is the power-level issue of 5e vs. 3e/3.5/PF (the consensus seems to be that the 20 levels of 5e is a compression of somewhere in that 3-15 range of 3.x), so that the maximum powers of a 5e character map more to a lower level of a 3.x character like found in PF (which I understand tend toward being more potent, even if more interestingly so, than earlier 3.x classes). So, building a PF class into a 5e subclass like that *would* have some ability dissonance.Now that I type that, I'm really itching to play some 5e (despite it feeling like the version written for me, I haven't played yet due to lack of any of my usual groups)...(I understand the 20th level issue, though. I &quot;grew up&quot; campaigning in Dragonlance back through 2e with a mix of 1e material, so we had the &quot;you don't get past 18th level on Krynn&quot; rule and got used to segueing in new secondary characters around level 10-12 – even in 3.x, we kept that technique due to running a 'soap opera' game!)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AmerginLiath, post: 6436164, member: 777"] I think that part of the issue is the power-level issue of 5e vs. 3e/3.5/PF (the consensus seems to be that the 20 levels of 5e is a compression of somewhere in that 3-15 range of 3.x), so that the maximum powers of a 5e character map more to a lower level of a 3.x character like found in PF (which I understand tend toward being more potent, even if more interestingly so, than earlier 3.x classes). So, building a PF class into a 5e subclass like that *would* have some ability dissonance. Now that I type that, I'm really itching to play some 5e (despite it feeling like the version written for me, I haven't played yet due to lack of any of my usual groups)... (I understand the 20th level issue, though. I "grew up" campaigning in Dragonlance back through 2e with a mix of 1e material, so we had the "you don't get past 18th level on Krynn" rule and got used to segueing in new secondary characters around level 10-12 – even in 3.x, we kept that technique due to running a 'soap opera' game!) [/QUOTE]

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