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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 4597117" data-attributes="member: 48965">Okay, so I think I get it...now do you have he player roll for the different actions or just roll for their power, and it's successful use completes the total string of actions?I guess what I find odd in general about the way 4e does this is that with your prime attribute + weapon prof + 1/2 level + magic weapon, etc.  it will almost always be better to just use a power.  I guess this thought process is great for balance, because you're almost certain to know what the PC's will hit with, how much damage, etc... but in the genre of fantasy, especially adventure fantasy, it is far more likely for a hero to think up a clever solution to a problem or do something out of the ordinary...than to use the same power, skill, talent, etc. over and over again to save the day.  I think this may be one of the reasons people claim it's videogamey [Please note I am not saying it is or it isn't, just presenting a tangential thought]...that is the only medium for fantasy stories that I can think of off-hand in which the above usage of the same powers over and over again is the norm.</blockquote>