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<blockquote data-quote="Kaiyanwang" data-source="post: 5286110" data-attributes="member: 91656">You continue with your condiscendence, but you criticize a system you don't ever know.An headbutt is an unarmed strike too. And stunning fist can be took by anyone with wis 13 and enough BAB.And I meant use two attacks (main hand and off-hand) use two weapon rend, and then kick a second enemy to stun him.You can do a step during a full attack.&nbsp; And if you couldn't quickdraw during a full attack, how could I build a thrower character? Take a look in FAQs, pag 36.And no, is not the first repeated. Unless you think that if you swing a greataxe 4 times or make 4 trip attapts with a glaive at reach is the same move. be sincere: would it be the same move in 4th edition? And in 3rd, you can combine the attacks too. But i agree with you that full attacks make ou stuck in place and this, depending fro the DM gamestyle, can be annoying or plain suck.Seriously, Cirno.. did you ever played a melee character in 3.5? or you never, ever tried because teh internet said that melee don't get nice things?And, more important, man, try to be more polite. Even if comes out that I'm flat out wrong, you hehewats don't bring anything on the table. If I were in front of you, would you treat me in the same patronizing way?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaiyanwang, post: 5286110, member: 91656"] You continue with your condiscendence, but you criticize a system you don't ever know. An headbutt is an unarmed strike too. And stunning fist can be took by anyone with wis 13 and enough BAB. And I meant use two attacks (main hand and off-hand) use two weapon rend, and then kick a second enemy to stun him. You [U]can[/U] do a step during a full attack. And if you couldn't quickdraw during a full attack, how could I build a thrower character? Take a look in FAQs, pag 36. And no, is not the first repeated. Unless you think that if you swing a greataxe 4 times or make 4 trip attapts with a glaive at reach is the same move. be sincere: would it be the same move in 4th edition? And in 3rd, you can combine the attacks too. But i agree with you that full attacks make ou stuck in place and this, depending fro the DM gamestyle, can be annoying or plain suck. Seriously, Cirno.. did you ever played a melee character in 3.5? or you never, ever tried because teh internet said that melee don't get nice things? And, more important, man, try to be more polite. Even if comes out that I'm flat out wrong, you hehewats don't bring anything on the table. If I were in front of you, would you treat me in the same patronizing way? [/QUOTE]

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