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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5294473" data-attributes="member: 35909">Basically because it was a bs attack on 3E.&nbsp; Lots of game systems get eratta and such, some like 4E with even greater frequency.To clarify: When I criticize the skill rank system in 4E as a &quot;ruse,&quot; a fictious improvement for &quot;untrained&quot; skills that people claim makes it superior to 3E, where 0 ranks remains stagant, it's a valid criticism.&nbsp; Everyone gains skill bonus at 1/2 level rate, and the challenge DCs specifically take this into account.&nbsp; So you're basically just running in place, not actually improving.&nbsp; Also, that critique IS unique to 4E's game system, and probably some others (Star Wars Saga Edition is similar, right?).It would be totally unfair and a bs argument if I tried to say, for example... &quot;4E's a stupid rules system, they think a human can stab a giant to death with a sword smaller than the giant's toothpick!&quot; because...well, that's a fantasy genre staple and common in all editions of D&amp;D.Hope that clears it up.&nbsp; Maybe it's not funny...I just found it amusing and it made me smile for some reason.(I was going to leave it at 4E, but decided to edit and point out it's true of lots of games because a) these boards have a hair trigger for &quot;edition warring,&quot; and I wouldn't be surprised if I somehow got a reprisal for it even if MitFH didn't; and b) I don't actually know what MitFH's game preferences are, I shouldn't just assume 4E.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5294473, member: 35909"] Basically because it was a bs attack on 3E. Lots of game systems get eratta and such, some like 4E with even greater frequency. To clarify: When I criticize the skill rank system in 4E as a "ruse," a fictious improvement for "untrained" skills that people claim makes it superior to 3E, where 0 ranks remains stagant, it's a valid criticism. Everyone gains skill bonus at 1/2 level rate, and the challenge DCs specifically take this into account. So you're basically just running in place, not actually improving. Also, that critique IS unique to 4E's game system, and probably some others (Star Wars Saga Edition is similar, right?). It would be totally unfair and a bs argument if I tried to say, for example... "4E's a stupid rules system, they think a human can stab a giant to death with a sword smaller than the giant's toothpick!" because...well, that's a fantasy genre staple and common in all editions of D&D. Hope that clears it up. Maybe it's not funny...I just found it amusing and it made me smile for some reason. (I was going to leave it at 4E, but decided to edit and point out it's true of lots of games because a) these boards have a hair trigger for "edition warring," and I wouldn't be surprised if I somehow got a reprisal for it even if MitFH didn't; and b) I don't actually know what MitFH's game preferences are, I shouldn't just assume 4E.) [/QUOTE]

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