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<blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 2101632" data-attributes="member: 1190">Aid Another much...Applying a disguise to someone is not the same as disguising yourself.&nbsp; If you do it to someone else, that person still has to pull it off (it is a Cha based skill which means it is based on their performance).&nbsp; When you use your disguise skill on someone else, you are using the Aid Another action.&nbsp; That means a +2 to their Disguise skill check if you get a 15 or more.&nbsp; (I HR this to allow better checks to proved better bonuses, but that is another thread).The same is true when you &quot;Hide&quot; someone else.&nbsp; You are using the Aid Another action (+2).Any opposed roll is by definition performance dependant.&nbsp; You cannot make a check for another person in any situation, and this situation is no exception.&nbsp; And because failure is not fixed, as a group of 15 people could have 10 people see through the disguise (failure) and 5 people not (success), there is no real way of knowing whether you need to retry.&nbsp; Thus, taking 20 is, at best, problematic.Taking-10 would be fine though.DC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DreamChaser, post: 2101632, member: 1190"] [b]Aid Another much...[/b] Applying a disguise to someone is not the same as disguising yourself. If you do it to someone else, that person still has to pull it off (it is a Cha based skill which means it is based on their performance). When you use your disguise skill on someone else, you are using the Aid Another action. That means a +2 to their Disguise skill check if you get a 15 or more. (I HR this to allow better checks to proved better bonuses, but that is another thread). The same is true when you "Hide" someone else. You are using the Aid Another action (+2). Any opposed roll is by definition performance dependant. You cannot make a check for another person in any situation, and this situation is no exception. And because failure is not fixed, as a group of 15 people could have 10 people see through the disguise (failure) and 5 people not (success), there is no real way of knowing whether you need to retry. Thus, taking 20 is, at best, problematic. Taking-10 would be fine though. DC [/QUOTE]

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