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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6749991" data-attributes="member: 6801315">That's because as explained you're supposed to know that whenever you make an attack you follow the Make an Attack rules found the PHB.&nbsp; Disintegrate is an attack.&nbsp; So the 3 steps described there is what you follow.&nbsp; Step 2 is where damage resolution happens, wildshape specifically says that you revert during the damage resolution step because any remaining damage after you revert is then applied to your real HP pool.&nbsp; The disintegration itself from the spell happens during step 3 of the making an attack section in the effect phase of making an attack.&nbsp; You also have to understand that the wildshape form and druid are not 2 different creatures and that the spell does not specifically target the wildshape form.&nbsp; It targets the druid who's life pool is only reduced to 0 hit points, which is what the spell is checking, if the excess damage is enough to bring him to 0.&nbsp; Basically, the problem here is there's multiple rules at play which interact to give us how this works.&nbsp; People aren't aware of some of these rules or where to find them which leads to confusion and the wrong conclusion.That being said, the rules for 5e follow a deliberately &quot;loose&quot; form which gives more room for these variant interpretations.&nbsp; It's billed as a benefit but I don't agree with that statement at all.&nbsp; A solid base everyone can agree on is what's important.&nbsp; If after everyone understands how the base works, you want to make changes and develop your own version of the rules go for it!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6749991, member: 6801315"] That's because as explained you're supposed to know that whenever you make an attack you follow the Make an Attack rules found the PHB. Disintegrate is an attack. So the 3 steps described there is what you follow. Step 2 is where damage resolution happens, wildshape specifically says that you revert during the damage resolution step because any remaining damage after you revert is then applied to your real HP pool. The disintegration itself from the spell happens during step 3 of the making an attack section in the effect phase of making an attack. You also have to understand that the wildshape form and druid are not 2 different creatures and that the spell does not specifically target the wildshape form. It targets the druid who's life pool is only reduced to 0 hit points, which is what the spell is checking, if the excess damage is enough to bring him to 0. Basically, the problem here is there's multiple rules at play which interact to give us how this works. People aren't aware of some of these rules or where to find them which leads to confusion and the wrong conclusion. That being said, the rules for 5e follow a deliberately "loose" form which gives more room for these variant interpretations. It's billed as a benefit but I don't agree with that statement at all. A solid base everyone can agree on is what's important. If after everyone understands how the base works, you want to make changes and develop your own version of the rules go for it! [/QUOTE]

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