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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6751571" data-attributes="member: 6801315"><p>First, It's a very slimy arguing tactic to call someone defensive the moment you have someone respond to a claim you make in a discussion. Basically, it's a gotcha type statement intended to cause the person to actually become defensive while attempting to hide the fact you yourself are defensive. To be clear, I am not defensive, you're a random person on the internet comparing dnd to real life and the laws, regulations and constitution of the united states. You're using that comparison to say that I'm incorrect in an earlier statement. I'm explaining that the comparison you're making is flawed because of the reasons I've outlined previously and others in this post. And lastly, calling someone defensive (even if they actually are acting that way) doesn't solve anything so I would actually recommend you not bring that up to people you're speaking with since if anything it'll just make things worse.</p><p></p><p>I think what you should do instead is compare this table top strategy game to OTHER table top strategy games which have clear and fluid rules text that don't leave people with the ambiguity and confusion 5e often does. Imaculata pointed this out above. The design philosophy behind this was imo a bad call by the designers. Since then they've had to nominate one of their own as the "rules guy", create an entire website for hosting the responses to rules questions, etc.. Basically, they have now spent resources of all kinds to patch the problem they created on purpose. Imo, after 4e and the experience they got from it, they could have created a much more stable and concrete base for the rules of the game. But I still like 5e and play it as both PC and DM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6751571, member: 6801315"] First, It's a very slimy arguing tactic to call someone defensive the moment you have someone respond to a claim you make in a discussion. Basically, it's a gotcha type statement intended to cause the person to actually become defensive while attempting to hide the fact you yourself are defensive. To be clear, I am not defensive, you're a random person on the internet comparing dnd to real life and the laws, regulations and constitution of the united states. You're using that comparison to say that I'm incorrect in an earlier statement. I'm explaining that the comparison you're making is flawed because of the reasons I've outlined previously and others in this post. And lastly, calling someone defensive (even if they actually are acting that way) doesn't solve anything so I would actually recommend you not bring that up to people you're speaking with since if anything it'll just make things worse. I think what you should do instead is compare this table top strategy game to OTHER table top strategy games which have clear and fluid rules text that don't leave people with the ambiguity and confusion 5e often does. Imaculata pointed this out above. The design philosophy behind this was imo a bad call by the designers. Since then they've had to nominate one of their own as the "rules guy", create an entire website for hosting the responses to rules questions, etc.. Basically, they have now spent resources of all kinds to patch the problem they created on purpose. Imo, after 4e and the experience they got from it, they could have created a much more stable and concrete base for the rules of the game. But I still like 5e and play it as both PC and DM. [/QUOTE]
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