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<blockquote data-quote="Ferret" data-source="post: 2359338" data-attributes="member: 4052"><p>Cheiro first, then domino.</p><p></p><p>Yes, It would work. I don't mind that, save that it would mean a spell that was 5 levels lower would, but then it also blocks gate, So I don't mind.</p><p></p><p>Yeah it is harsh, but it was your idea <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />. It isn't a very nice idea, Would 2d6 points of constitution damage leaving a minimum of 1 be too much? 2d4? It should dent the HP as well as make then 'weak' The creature would be comatose whilst the spell is active.</p><p></p><p>The incorporeal creature still has a visible (if not physical) 'body', although it isn't a body as such, It has a soul, and something else, because they aren't all soul. This does raise the question about outsiders who don't have a dual nature. When you say <em>planeshifted</em>, do you mean to clarify what happens to all creatures souls, or just explain how incorporeal creaturres are effected?</p><p></p><p>Where would they [undead] go that would effect them like that? Would they even be effected by the trauma? I would say yes, but it shouldn't be represented by loss of con, especial the one without it.</p><p></p><p>The Wisdom check is brutal with the loss of wisdom, but it doesn't seem enough as a charisma drain, although if I do use the con damage it isn't just that.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I had them designed for the old one and just adjusted things, I will change or remove them.</p><p></p><p>It should, although I don't know what it would do if it sent them to the Negetive energy plane....Unless the soul is still susceptable, it's only the whole that benefits [from the negetive energy].</p><p></p><p>Thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ferret, post: 2359338, member: 4052"] Cheiro first, then domino. Yes, It would work. I don't mind that, save that it would mean a spell that was 5 levels lower would, but then it also blocks gate, So I don't mind. Yeah it is harsh, but it was your idea :p. It isn't a very nice idea, Would 2d6 points of constitution damage leaving a minimum of 1 be too much? 2d4? It should dent the HP as well as make then 'weak' The creature would be comatose whilst the spell is active. The incorporeal creature still has a visible (if not physical) 'body', although it isn't a body as such, It has a soul, and something else, because they aren't all soul. This does raise the question about outsiders who don't have a dual nature. When you say [i]planeshifted[/i], do you mean to clarify what happens to all creatures souls, or just explain how incorporeal creaturres are effected? Where would they [undead] go that would effect them like that? Would they even be effected by the trauma? I would say yes, but it shouldn't be represented by loss of con, especial the one without it. The Wisdom check is brutal with the loss of wisdom, but it doesn't seem enough as a charisma drain, although if I do use the con damage it isn't just that. Yeah, I had them designed for the old one and just adjusted things, I will change or remove them. It should, although I don't know what it would do if it sent them to the Negetive energy plane....Unless the soul is still susceptable, it's only the whole that benefits [from the negetive energy]. Thanks [/QUOTE]
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