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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2466131" data-attributes="member: 141">I changed my mind about the constructs.  I originally had the criteria be the magic immunity ability of golems, which is silly.  What does magic immunity have to do with souls?  I also suggested a possibility for intelligent constructs, but that also doesn't make sense.  If outsiders and elves are intelligent but nondisjoinable, why should intelligent constructs be disjoinable? I like the rule about the creation process much better.  Disjoin soul checks for souls, which (by assumption) is what is manipulated by spells like raise dead and create undead.  That is why creatures who can be raised can be disjoined, and so can undead.  If a construct is animated by these spells, it can be disjoined too.But outsiders can't be raised; by assumption they don't have souls, or at least don't have souls that disjoin soul can affect.  Outsiders also need spells like limited wish or miracle to bring them back.  So we can conclude these kinds of spells manipulate animating forces that disjoin soul can't get at.  So if a construct is given life by a limited wish or miracle, it can't be disjoined.</blockquote>