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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 9692906" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>Reading the actual court documents, this ruling isn't the great win the AI people wantsto think it is. The headline is this grandiose "LLM training is fair use!", but the actual ruling is way more nuanced and influenced by the American custom to disregard sweat-of-the-brow. Many of the books involved were about factual information -something that enjoy little precious protection in American copyright tradition-, and the judge considered the training didn't reduce demand for fiction writing, so it didn't hurt the fiction authors. Also, the ruling states that the licensing market for AI training isn't a real thing and no law has provided for it as a right. Now, if this ruling stands in appeal, it can actually help set a precedent for the Midjourney suit that would end up hurting Midjourney. Factual information is a minuscule part of artwork, and Midjourney actively competes with artists -and in this case Media conglomerates-. This case actively reduces demand for official artwork and hurts the very real licensing market. </p><p></p><p>Also, the ruling only was about the actual training, the case is still open for the large scale pirating that Anthropic engaged on in order to build their library (And this same ruling anticipates that the authors can still see some windfall out of it). Did Midjourney buy every single copy of these movies and art? Or did they sail for a bit in order to get these? Odds are they infringed the DRM Act in the process of scrapping the internet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 9692906, member: 6689464"] Reading the actual court documents, this ruling isn't the great win the AI people wantsto think it is. The headline is this grandiose "LLM training is fair use!", but the actual ruling is way more nuanced and influenced by the American custom to disregard sweat-of-the-brow. Many of the books involved were about factual information -something that enjoy little precious protection in American copyright tradition-, and the judge considered the training didn't reduce demand for fiction writing, so it didn't hurt the fiction authors. Also, the ruling states that the licensing market for AI training isn't a real thing and no law has provided for it as a right. Now, if this ruling stands in appeal, it can actually help set a precedent for the Midjourney suit that would end up hurting Midjourney. Factual information is a minuscule part of artwork, and Midjourney actively competes with artists -and in this case Media conglomerates-. This case actively reduces demand for official artwork and hurts the very real licensing market. Also, the ruling only was about the actual training, the case is still open for the large scale pirating that Anthropic engaged on in order to build their library (And this same ruling anticipates that the authors can still see some windfall out of it). Did Midjourney buy every single copy of these movies and art? Or did they sail for a bit in order to get these? Odds are they infringed the DRM Act in the process of scrapping the internet. [/QUOTE]
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