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<blockquote data-quote="Otterscrubber" data-source="post: 6775847" data-attributes="member: 4588"><p>A few reasons actually. #1 is that they took the limited choice of skill slots they had and chose one that would be useful. Also, it could be read that abjurers get to add their proficiency bonus without having to get a skill do so, or even that they stack so that in any event an abjurer with arcana would be even better than a non-abjurer with arcana. </p><p></p><p>But I do see your point, since abjurers get that ability it at least opens the door that it was not intended to be allowed that any skills apply to the ability check required by Dispel Magic or Counterspell. But it also says it is an ability check, and in those cases, barring specific wording to the contrary, applicable skills should allow you to get your proficiency bonus. That's what it says under ability checks and I see no wording in the dispel magic or counterspell to say this is anything other than a standard ability check, and on standard ability checks relevant skills allow you get your proficiency bonus.</p><p></p><p></p><p>***ok, kinda repeated myself there, wasn't trying to be snarky <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Otterscrubber, post: 6775847, member: 4588"] A few reasons actually. #1 is that they took the limited choice of skill slots they had and chose one that would be useful. Also, it could be read that abjurers get to add their proficiency bonus without having to get a skill do so, or even that they stack so that in any event an abjurer with arcana would be even better than a non-abjurer with arcana. But I do see your point, since abjurers get that ability it at least opens the door that it was not intended to be allowed that any skills apply to the ability check required by Dispel Magic or Counterspell. But it also says it is an ability check, and in those cases, barring specific wording to the contrary, applicable skills should allow you to get your proficiency bonus. That's what it says under ability checks and I see no wording in the dispel magic or counterspell to say this is anything other than a standard ability check, and on standard ability checks relevant skills allow you get your proficiency bonus. ***ok, kinda repeated myself there, wasn't trying to be snarky :) [/QUOTE]
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