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Message: <blockquote data-quote="small pumpkin man" data-source="post: 4149123" data-attributes="member: 57910">Probably, I'll try to keep it in mind.The mantra is "everyone will have something interesting to do" not "everyone can do everything", it's the same as the change in skills, there's always going to be a gradiation of usefulness, and a Wizard with dispel able to completely remove an effect in one action while the fighter will have to smack through the hp or or accept the fact that her higher fort/athletics makes the grease/Bigbies hand less effective than it would be on a wizard.I'm going to quote this next bit out of context a bit, if it doesn't capture what you're trying to say, please tell me.Thing is, I really like games like M&M which completely remove the 'fiddly bits' and just allow you to take and flavour your abilities how you want, and I love the  fact the 4e is moving that direction. Magic vs melee /should/ be a difference of flavour and 'what can I do' not 'how do I manage my resources' or the mechanics of how it works, IMO divine magic feels more faith based in 4e, and arcane casters feel like casters, not database managers, lance of faith and ray of frost feel far more different to me than bless/haste or flamestrike/fireball ever did in 3.x.But that's just personal opinion, so whatever.</blockquote>