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<blockquote data-quote="HeapThaumaturgist" data-source="post: 2685951" data-attributes="member: 12332"><p>Okay, this is a spell-combo question:</p><p></p><p>Dispell Magic can supress a magical item for 1d4 rounds, rendering it "nonmagical" for the duration. So, say, you could target a +1 Longsword with Dispel Magic, overcome the caster-level, and it becomes a Masterwork Longsword for 1d4 rounds.</p><p></p><p>In the interim, if you were to target that longsword with the Shatter spell, would it shatter it? The spell states that it can target a single nonmagical object regardless of composition ... </p><p></p><p>See where I'm going?</p><p></p><p>Now, for most casters, this 1 - 2 combo is pretty wasteful and involves quite a few rolls to pull off and uses a 3rd and 2nd level slot.</p><p></p><p>But I've been playing with Warlocks lately, looking at how they work, and there's "Voracious Dispelling" and "Baleful Utterance", which function as Dispel Magic and Shatter, respectively. Warlocks can use their invocations at will, so a Warlock could, concievably, hang out in the back rows targeting V.D.s on weapons until one sticks, then throwing Utterances until one of THOSE sticks.</p><p></p><p>Most groups would freak out about somebody blowing up all the good loot, but does this even work like it seems to? If not for a PC warlock, I could see this combo setting up for a REAL annoying badguy ... debuffing the heck out of the party, blowing up all of their potions, and then zapping their magical weapons and shattering them (especially while flying and targeting all the bows first).</p><p></p><p>--fje</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeapThaumaturgist, post: 2685951, member: 12332"] Okay, this is a spell-combo question: Dispell Magic can supress a magical item for 1d4 rounds, rendering it "nonmagical" for the duration. So, say, you could target a +1 Longsword with Dispel Magic, overcome the caster-level, and it becomes a Masterwork Longsword for 1d4 rounds. In the interim, if you were to target that longsword with the Shatter spell, would it shatter it? The spell states that it can target a single nonmagical object regardless of composition ... See where I'm going? Now, for most casters, this 1 - 2 combo is pretty wasteful and involves quite a few rolls to pull off and uses a 3rd and 2nd level slot. But I've been playing with Warlocks lately, looking at how they work, and there's "Voracious Dispelling" and "Baleful Utterance", which function as Dispel Magic and Shatter, respectively. Warlocks can use their invocations at will, so a Warlock could, concievably, hang out in the back rows targeting V.D.s on weapons until one sticks, then throwing Utterances until one of THOSE sticks. Most groups would freak out about somebody blowing up all the good loot, but does this even work like it seems to? If not for a PC warlock, I could see this combo setting up for a REAL annoying badguy ... debuffing the heck out of the party, blowing up all of their potions, and then zapping their magical weapons and shattering them (especially while flying and targeting all the bows first). --fje [/QUOTE]
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