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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cptg1481" data-source="post: 1005948" data-attributes="member: 5360">Official Word?Anubis - While I respect your right to opine, as a mater of fact I thank you for yours, I have to say to make the statement above as if it is undisputable fact is a little presumptuous don't you think?I would be curious from where and how you got the "official word".  Is it errata, or discussion that is located not in the public forum or is it on/in an “official” publication/location.  If it is opinion or a conclusion drawn by you or someone else from other sources then I’d be very interested in the text and or logic that you (or anyone else) used to base the “official word” upon.  If it is not “official” then I don’t think it is cool to sate so in a post.  Discussion of your post…1. IMO I don't get that the "Wings of Flying effect you specifically as through a Fly spell" from the description of the item. The description (see my post above) from the SRD says that they “empower the wearer to fly as with a fly spell anywhere wide enough to accommodate the wingspan”.  In my game, the words “as with” are not synonymous with “specifically as through a Fly spell”, especially when the item description infers that the “wings” are required for flight.  Furthermore, the phrase “…and empower the wearer to fly as with a fly spell anywhere wide enough to accommodate the wingspan…”, can not mean "specifically as through a Fly spell” beacuse the “fly” spell does not specifically base its locomotion upon anything physical be it wings, arms or otherwise. The wings provide the lift, propulsion and maneuverability of the Wings of Flying.    2. The Wings of Flying are do not cast the spell fly or create its effect, it is a cloak that when the command word is spoken becomes a large set of wings that “empower the wearer to fly as with a fly spell anywhere wide enough to accommodate the wingspan”.  You are free to “interpret” this however you wish for your game but for mine this means that the wings and the action of them flapping are both required for flight.  If the item created the effects of the “fly” spell (see prior posts) “specifically” as you state is the “official word” then I think that like with the spell the wings would not be necessary.  3. As for the rest of your “official word” in view of the above it is suspect at best.  Since the item in question does not create the “effects” of the spell and the item itself provides the gift of flight via a set of large wings it is clearly an item, in both of it's two forms - a cloak or a set of wings.  In one it allows the wearer to fly in the other its does not.   So as an item it can only be suppressed since there is no effect to dispel.   The Dispel spell description also appears above in prior posts.  Again, I am very curious where the “official word” can be found and read as you describe it above.  Please post it for us all to see. Anubis: OK now Im confused....you must have found more of the "offical word" while I was typing....EDITED: Does the new quote (immideately above) mean that the "official word" has changed since your first post? Does this mean that when a character’s Wings of Flying are “dispelled” with a targeted dispel that he/she drops out of the sky like a rock like I stated above?  Just wondering….. Thanks,</blockquote>

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