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Displacement - a bit wussy eh? Mirror image too...
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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 4127810" data-attributes="member: 114"><p>I was just looking at Displacement from the photographed page from DDXP. I quote:</p><p></p><p><strong>Displacement. Wizard Utility 16</strong></p><p>The recipient of this spell appears to be standing slightly to the left or right of his actual position, making it harder for enemies to hit him.</p><p></p><p>Encounter * Arcane, Illusion</p><p>Immediate Interrupt. Ranged 5</p><p>Trigger: A ranged or melee attack hits you or one ally in range.</p><p>Effect: The attacker must reroll the attack roll.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now I'm thinking "Hang on, a 16th level power, and it just forces a reroll once per encounter? Like that halfling racial power that a 1st level halfling can have (Corrin, "second chance") but ooooo, you could use it on someone else?</p><p></p><p>I would have thought that for a 16th level "encounter" utility spell it could at least give a guaranteed miss for a particular attack (and what if the attackers reroll is HIGHER the second time? Have I used an Encounter power to allow me or my buddy to take *more* damage?</p><p></p><p>I'm just really puzzled at the apparent power level of this spell. A high paragon spell to give me the protection that any 1st level halfling can get? Seems very weak to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Then there is Mirror Image.</p><p></p><p>On the face of it, moderately reasonable, except for this line:</p><p></p><p>Effect: three duplicate images of yourself appear in your space, and you gain a +6 power bonus to AC. <em>Each time an attack misses you</em>, one of your duplicate images disappears and the bonus granted by this power decreases by 2.</p><p></p><p>Pardon?</p><p></p><p>Hobgoblin Warcaster:"You runty kobold minions attack him first"</p><p></p><p>Minions "But all his defences are 25 or higher! We can't even touch him!"</p><p></p><p>Hobgoblin Warcaster "Ah, but your wild waving will frighten away his mirror images"</p><p></p><p>Minion 1 rolls 1 "miss"" (one image goes)</p><p>Minion 2 rolls 3 "miss!" (another image goes)</p><p>Minion 3 rolls 2 "miss!" (final image goes)</p><p></p><p>Hobgoblin Warcaster now attacks the measly defence 19 wizard whose protections have been stripped away by the baby kobold minions...</p><p></p><p>????</p><p></p><p>There seems to be something wrong here to me.</p><p></p><p>I would have thought that each time an attack HITS you one of the mirror images should go (or better yet, each time an attack misses you by the bonus which is being added by the spell, it dismisses an image). Either of those would have made sense, but the apparent text just doesn't make sense to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 4127810, member: 114"] I was just looking at Displacement from the photographed page from DDXP. I quote: [B]Displacement. Wizard Utility 16[/B] The recipient of this spell appears to be standing slightly to the left or right of his actual position, making it harder for enemies to hit him. Encounter * Arcane, Illusion Immediate Interrupt. Ranged 5 Trigger: A ranged or melee attack hits you or one ally in range. Effect: The attacker must reroll the attack roll. Now I'm thinking "Hang on, a 16th level power, and it just forces a reroll once per encounter? Like that halfling racial power that a 1st level halfling can have (Corrin, "second chance") but ooooo, you could use it on someone else? I would have thought that for a 16th level "encounter" utility spell it could at least give a guaranteed miss for a particular attack (and what if the attackers reroll is HIGHER the second time? Have I used an Encounter power to allow me or my buddy to take *more* damage? I'm just really puzzled at the apparent power level of this spell. A high paragon spell to give me the protection that any 1st level halfling can get? Seems very weak to me. Then there is Mirror Image. On the face of it, moderately reasonable, except for this line: Effect: three duplicate images of yourself appear in your space, and you gain a +6 power bonus to AC. [I]Each time an attack misses you[/I], one of your duplicate images disappears and the bonus granted by this power decreases by 2. Pardon? Hobgoblin Warcaster:"You runty kobold minions attack him first" Minions "But all his defences are 25 or higher! We can't even touch him!" Hobgoblin Warcaster "Ah, but your wild waving will frighten away his mirror images" Minion 1 rolls 1 "miss"" (one image goes) Minion 2 rolls 3 "miss!" (another image goes) Minion 3 rolls 2 "miss!" (final image goes) Hobgoblin Warcaster now attacks the measly defence 19 wizard whose protections have been stripped away by the baby kobold minions... ???? There seems to be something wrong here to me. I would have thought that each time an attack HITS you one of the mirror images should go (or better yet, each time an attack misses you by the bonus which is being added by the spell, it dismisses an image). Either of those would have made sense, but the apparent text just doesn't make sense to me. [/QUOTE]
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