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<blockquote data-quote="Herpes Cineplex" data-source="post: 1477087" data-attributes="member: 16936"><p>That's so weird; in our high school gaming group (where I first ran across Shadowrun and CP2020), it was the other way around. Players who came out of Shadowrun always assumed the worst, trusted no one, always sold out to the highest bidder, and their PCs were ready to kill anyone and anything in their way at the slightest provocation. On the other side, the players who came out of CP2020 worried about their PCs' reputations, generally held everyone to a basic standard of fairness, relied on their partners, and only resorted to lethal force when confronted by the same. Funny how that works out. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as the disruptive guy Animus is asking about goes, it sounds tricky. To be honest, it sounds like he's looking for more of a "the PCs are the individual stars of their own ultra-cool action movies" vibe from the game than a "party of like-minded specialists are confronted with obstacles in the real world" sort of thing. He took an opportunity to go do his ninja thing and hopefully blast the bad guys out of existence single-handedly, assuming that it would work, when the game he was playing was actually assuming that such an attempt would be noticed, prevented, and punished.</p><p></p><p>Is such a thing fixable? Probably not. He's likely to keep throwing action-movie loner heroes at the game, because for some reason that's what he's dying to play. If you guys already talked to him about the kind of party you want in the game and it didn't sink in, I'm not sure that there's much else you can do to break him out of this.</p><p></p><p>You could try asking him why he likes to make characters who do nothing but make trouble for the other PCs and see if he gives an interesting answer, I guess. It might at least give you guys an idea about how to work around him, or hint at the words you need in order to explain to him why his characters aren't working out and why he's wrecking everyone else's fun.</p><p></p><p>Or at least give you a good story to tell here that will make us all shake our heads and wonder how it is that such a person could walk the earth as a free man.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>which is arguably the best reason to ask him why he does this</p><p>ryan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herpes Cineplex, post: 1477087, member: 16936"] That's so weird; in our high school gaming group (where I first ran across Shadowrun and CP2020), it was the other way around. Players who came out of Shadowrun always assumed the worst, trusted no one, always sold out to the highest bidder, and their PCs were ready to kill anyone and anything in their way at the slightest provocation. On the other side, the players who came out of CP2020 worried about their PCs' reputations, generally held everyone to a basic standard of fairness, relied on their partners, and only resorted to lethal force when confronted by the same. Funny how that works out. ;) As far as the disruptive guy Animus is asking about goes, it sounds tricky. To be honest, it sounds like he's looking for more of a "the PCs are the individual stars of their own ultra-cool action movies" vibe from the game than a "party of like-minded specialists are confronted with obstacles in the real world" sort of thing. He took an opportunity to go do his ninja thing and hopefully blast the bad guys out of existence single-handedly, assuming that it would work, when the game he was playing was actually assuming that such an attempt would be noticed, prevented, and punished. Is such a thing fixable? Probably not. He's likely to keep throwing action-movie loner heroes at the game, because for some reason that's what he's dying to play. If you guys already talked to him about the kind of party you want in the game and it didn't sink in, I'm not sure that there's much else you can do to break him out of this. You could try asking him why he likes to make characters who do nothing but make trouble for the other PCs and see if he gives an interesting answer, I guess. It might at least give you guys an idea about how to work around him, or hint at the words you need in order to explain to him why his characters aren't working out and why he's wrecking everyone else's fun. Or at least give you a good story to tell here that will make us all shake our heads and wonder how it is that such a person could walk the earth as a free man. -- which is arguably the best reason to ask him why he does this ryan [/QUOTE]
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