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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jaelis" data-source="post: 7350012" data-attributes="member: 60210">OK, I will try to ask this clearly since I don't think I'm doing a good job. You (and plenty of other people) feel that in the invisibility spell, the notion of attack should be interpreted using its ordinary real-world meaning. So if you do something that in ordinary life would be considered an attack, the spell should end. I accept that as a valid interpretation, and I have no objection to you playing that way.I feel that in the same situation, the notion of attack should be interpreted narrowly, in a technical game sense. So if you do something that requires an attack roll, or that the rules explicitly call out as an attack, then the spell will end. If not then it continues.I am interested in knowing why you prefer the first interpretation to the second, because I would like to understand that point of view. When you say "I find it hard to believe you can reconcile those two or honestly say that if a dragon incinerated someone, it did not attack that person," is it because you don't understand my interpretation? I certainly agree that in your interpretation it is an attack. Do you agree that in my interpretation it is not? You are a thoughtful poster that I usually understand pretty well, so it is hard for me to imagine that you literally don't understand what I am saying. (Not that you have to agree, but you can understand what someone is saying even if you think they are wrong.) But if you don't I can try harder.Just to put it out there, here are some reasons I could understand for your position. Are any of them close to the mark?- That is the way it worked in older editions and you see no reason to change - You think the spell is too powerful in my interpretation- You think the spell is less fun in my interpretation- You prefer to interpret the rules in natural language as much as possible- You think some other rule tells us to use your interpretation- You don't have any reason you just like what you likeAt the bottom of that list is "you don't understand my interpretation and so you can't conceive of interpreting it differently than you do." Like I said I don't believe that is likely, but it is frustrating because that is how your responses come across.</blockquote>

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